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https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3245703/
https://web.archive.org/web/20230609210514/https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3245703/
I've been noting this suggestion thread title in passing a lot and finally got bored enough to read it. Was a bit surprised to see mostly support, honestly, given that the two things I have been paying attention to (dragon restore achievements and breed dragon pursuits) have gotten a lot of people flak for objecting because "Well, you don't need to do all of them", so I expected this thread to be primarily more of the same.
I'm conflicted on how I feel about it. Personally I haven't even reached the 400k mark yet, but that doesn't make me want it removed - the opposite, I want to keep trying for it.
It absolutely sucks that some people have internet, device, or personal disability issues that keep them from even getting close, but it's not possible to make everything universally accessible to all life circumstances - a game based around quick reaction times and a stressful timer is never going to work in some cases, but that doesn't mean such games shouldn't exist.
I particularly don't get the posters saying it shouldn't be an achievement because the amount of treasure you get for high SS scores isn't worth it. If economic sensibility were the measure, there shouldn't be fairground achievements for anything besides G&G, and strike off a lot of other ones too (those Swipp ore trades burn I tell you). Sure, I'd like to see payouts balanced someday, but the other games still deserve achievements in the meantime.
Or that it's not fair because you can lose if you get distracted for a second - SS has a pause button, unlike Artifracture. In that, I think it's much more 'take a break to go deal with RL, or rest your eyes and wrists'-friendly.
(I do like the 'save your progress if you get disconnected' idea that was brought up, though.)
Not getting involved in the suggestion thread because 1) I don't want to get jumped on and 2) I wouldn't actually mind if it got removed or changed. Just bemused by what I'm reading and curious how others here feel. (Also, if anyone has any tips/tricks/guides, I'd love to read them. Is there a most optimized level?)
https://web.archive.org/web/20230609210514/https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3245703/
I've been noting this suggestion thread title in passing a lot and finally got bored enough to read it. Was a bit surprised to see mostly support, honestly, given that the two things I have been paying attention to (dragon restore achievements and breed dragon pursuits) have gotten a lot of people flak for objecting because "Well, you don't need to do all of them", so I expected this thread to be primarily more of the same.
I'm conflicted on how I feel about it. Personally I haven't even reached the 400k mark yet, but that doesn't make me want it removed - the opposite, I want to keep trying for it.
It absolutely sucks that some people have internet, device, or personal disability issues that keep them from even getting close, but it's not possible to make everything universally accessible to all life circumstances - a game based around quick reaction times and a stressful timer is never going to work in some cases, but that doesn't mean such games shouldn't exist.
I particularly don't get the posters saying it shouldn't be an achievement because the amount of treasure you get for high SS scores isn't worth it. If economic sensibility were the measure, there shouldn't be fairground achievements for anything besides G&G, and strike off a lot of other ones too (those Swipp ore trades burn I tell you). Sure, I'd like to see payouts balanced someday, but the other games still deserve achievements in the meantime.
Or that it's not fair because you can lose if you get distracted for a second - SS has a pause button, unlike Artifracture. In that, I think it's much more 'take a break to go deal with RL, or rest your eyes and wrists'-friendly.
(I do like the 'save your progress if you get disconnected' idea that was brought up, though.)
Not getting involved in the suggestion thread because 1) I don't want to get jumped on and 2) I wouldn't actually mind if it got removed or changed. Just bemused by what I'm reading and curious how others here feel. (Also, if anyone has any tips/tricks/guides, I'd love to read them. Is there a most optimized level?)
saw it mentioned in a discord - did they add new censored words? "pill" and "pills" gets blocked out of dragon bios now, but haven't heard about anything else
Anybody know why the site is down right now? Firefox is saying something about needing a secure connection. I don't see any dev posts anywhere but it is a holiday morning in America.
It sucks that the egg market has crashed. Like what happened?
I'm not really that active on FR these days, occasionally I'll browse through here just to see what's going on a bit. Jump-scared me seeing my old UN briefly mentioned in passing I gotta say considering I'm basically not present these days lmao. In particular with it being mentioned in the sort of "this person was annoying" context (which tbf I was a teenager back then so yeah fair). FR's been around for so long now that I'm kind of amazed people remember specific names from particularly old drama outside of especially big names. I don't think it's that atypical for sites to FR to have a frequently rotating cast of "annoying person of the day" sort of thing, so I genuinely don't think I could remember basically any of those.
Then again I also don't really play FR anymore so
Then again I also don't really play FR anymore so
Is such a lazy gene and looks kinda bad, it makes Smirch look amazing-- it's almost like, a dragon was blowing up a massive bubble gum bubble and it popped on their face.
As someone who started in Fire flight (but has moved since) having a fire related gene was always something I thought would look cool and vibe so well, since they did a light festival gene relating to the light flight. Here's hoping they make a cool fiery one for my home flight.
It is so hard to make firebreather look good, unless the dragon is basic/basic/good tert colour.
Carnivore on the other hand is also not amazing either, but I do like how more subtle it looks and has saved a few of my dragons with awkward tert colours, it's also very inexpensive.
As someone who started in Fire flight (but has moved since) having a fire related gene was always something I thought would look cool and vibe so well, since they did a light festival gene relating to the light flight. Here's hoping they make a cool fiery one for my home flight.
It is so hard to make firebreather look good, unless the dragon is basic/basic/good tert colour.
Carnivore on the other hand is also not amazing either, but I do like how more subtle it looks and has saved a few of my dragons with awkward tert colours, it's also very inexpensive.
When was the yield of glass beakers changed from 2 to 3?
Has anyone successfully commissioned stuff from Princecats in the past? I'm a little worried he might have ghosted me and a bunch of other people after taking payments
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/art/3243357/1
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/art/3243357/1
This is a discussion on SMR right now but I don't quite care for the community that posts there so I wanted to bring it up here as it's a better platform for discussion.
Once you notice all dragons except like 2 are dog/cat body and legs with reptile necks/tails it's hard not to notice. There are limitations to dragon breeds such as having to have enough blank space for genes so scale detail is limited so I do take that into account, but things like bogsneaks having mammalian back legs when they're otherwise a komodo dragon bodied is very strange and sticks out.
I see a lot people wanna straw man others who want more variety with "oh what, you want a million heads and tentacles and eldritch angel eyes" when really it's just... Something that isn't mammal body with reptile neck/tails and extra stuff.
Also more big fat dragons would be nice.
Once you notice all dragons except like 2 are dog/cat body and legs with reptile necks/tails it's hard not to notice. There are limitations to dragon breeds such as having to have enough blank space for genes so scale detail is limited so I do take that into account, but things like bogsneaks having mammalian back legs when they're otherwise a komodo dragon bodied is very strange and sticks out.
I see a lot people wanna straw man others who want more variety with "oh what, you want a million heads and tentacles and eldritch angel eyes" when really it's just... Something that isn't mammal body with reptile neck/tails and extra stuff.
Also more big fat dragons would be nice.
I might be the odd one out big time with this take but I really wish they'd not update old artwork (the most recent example being the sand, gravel and salt update).
I guess I just need to face the fact that the site is moving toward a new art style that I don't really like. Bleh.
I guess I just need to face the fact that the site is moving toward a new art style that I don't really like. Bleh.
(frozen comment) Why haven't Shian and Cross been banned for RMT yet?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)cross' new account is entirely just g1s and shian's new G1 imp. between the vtuber sucrose, souls, shian, and cross, this is getting really frustrating that staff refuses to ban them. :/
I rented a nest for someone and when the nest hatched and I sent the cr they didn't pick them up for a few days so I asked them if they hadn't noticed the cr and now they have me blocked. I don't want their dragons but I'm also nervous to exalt them even though I can't return them now...
Because I'm bored and haven't stirred the 'Ancients should get non-fitted apparel' pot lately
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 08:14 am (UTC)(link)From what I can tell, there were three reasons Ancients were excluded from apparel:
(1) Art
(2) Coding
(3) Thematic
Let's strike (3) off the list right now. Gameplay and story segregation, yo. If it doesn't fit with your personal lore for your ancient dragon to have a steampunk robot pet or something, don't put one on it, but pretending that there's a sacred cohesive lore that covers all the existing aesthetics items on the site and that putting anything but a skin on an ancient would violate it is pretty ridiculous. (Similarly the 'no apparel is what makes ancients special' argument. Then don't put it on your dragons, done.)
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(2) seems daunting but doable; there are a ton of situations already on the site where if [X] condition applies to a dragon, they cannot do [Y]. Perhaps most similarly, all moderns can have standard gene scrolls applied to them, ancients can only have their designated breed scrolls applied to them...except for remove gene scrolls, and those items are really just '[Primary/Secondary/Tertiary] Gene: Basic' scrolls when you think about it.
So universal/nonfitted apparel could function exactly like those remove gene scrolls - it could be compatible with all dragons, unlike its more specific counterparts.
The coding would be work, but it would only need to be done once.
~
That only leaves (1), and imo it's the only one that's particularly important. Ancients were intended as more limited to A) relieve crunch pressure on the artists while B) still allowing users to see new breeds more than every five years or so. Great goals, and they should always keep fulfilling that role.
But when there are so many items that would require no art effort beyond copy/pasting an existing layer (seriously, check out, say, autumn leaves on several different modern poses in succession. There are a limited number of arrangements that were simply re-used multiple times. Do the same for the ancients, pick one, make sure there isn't anything covering the dragon's eye or otherwise looking weird, done), but would add so much richness in customization possibilities, it seems frustrating for that to be a barrier.
Now, the argument here is usually the 'give a mouse a cookie' one. "If you let people have simple apparel on ancients, they'll clamor for more and more complex stuff! It'll never stop!"
...and? That seems like a feature, not a bug - as long as the clamoring is polite, which should apply to anything.
I don't feel like choosing which apparel to make universal should be a one-off deal.
First stage should be emperor's new clothes and marva's cloak - 0 art involvement there, and useful for all the reasons people put those things on modern dragons (yes, including the former, it's great if you want to protect a dragon from sale or exaltation but no design items or familiars fit with your personal lore for it) - and the simplest possible stuff like flowerfalls and auras.
Then things like floaty pets, emblems, mouth flowers, etc can be worked on slowly in the background. And it can mostly done by average humans as opposed to Capital-A-Artists (my own talents fall short of stick figures, Artists are superhuman and should be worshipped as such, but even someone like lame little me can take an existing image and move/rotate it around in a box). The existing coding can be used to convert those items to universal apparel when the images are ready.
Perhaps even simple semi-fitted things (like very small jewelry/crowns/earrings - probably nothing on wings/legs to preserve flexibility for future ancient designs, but I'm pretty sure no FR dragon will ever be designed without a head) can become universal with time - especially going forward, because from what I understand (and it seems to make intuitive sense), adapting apprel to a new pose is easiest at the time the apparel is first being designed (iirc we were told that Obelisk apparel art was drawn alongside other breeds' for years' worth of releases before the breed was actually released, and I wouldn't be surprised if the next modern breed is already fully drawn and getting the same treatment now).
Ancients wearing pants and armor? Almost certainly never. But they could be a lot more dynamic and appealing than they are now with, from what I can tell, a disproportionally small amount of effort. From this user's perspective, putting said effort in that direction would do a lot more for my enjoyment than a whole new ancient breed would - I think the new gem ancient is pretty much a done deal, but maybe after that?
(1) Art
(2) Coding
(3) Thematic
Let's strike (3) off the list right now. Gameplay and story segregation, yo. If it doesn't fit with your personal lore for your ancient dragon to have a steampunk robot pet or something, don't put one on it, but pretending that there's a sacred cohesive lore that covers all the existing aesthetics items on the site and that putting anything but a skin on an ancient would violate it is pretty ridiculous. (Similarly the 'no apparel is what makes ancients special' argument. Then don't put it on your dragons, done.)
~
(2) seems daunting but doable; there are a ton of situations already on the site where if [X] condition applies to a dragon, they cannot do [Y]. Perhaps most similarly, all moderns can have standard gene scrolls applied to them, ancients can only have their designated breed scrolls applied to them...except for remove gene scrolls, and those items are really just '[Primary/Secondary/Tertiary] Gene: Basic' scrolls when you think about it.
So universal/nonfitted apparel could function exactly like those remove gene scrolls - it could be compatible with all dragons, unlike its more specific counterparts.
The coding would be work, but it would only need to be done once.
~
That only leaves (1), and imo it's the only one that's particularly important. Ancients were intended as more limited to A) relieve crunch pressure on the artists while B) still allowing users to see new breeds more than every five years or so. Great goals, and they should always keep fulfilling that role.
But when there are so many items that would require no art effort beyond copy/pasting an existing layer (seriously, check out, say, autumn leaves on several different modern poses in succession. There are a limited number of arrangements that were simply re-used multiple times. Do the same for the ancients, pick one, make sure there isn't anything covering the dragon's eye or otherwise looking weird, done), but would add so much richness in customization possibilities, it seems frustrating for that to be a barrier.
Now, the argument here is usually the 'give a mouse a cookie' one. "If you let people have simple apparel on ancients, they'll clamor for more and more complex stuff! It'll never stop!"
...and? That seems like a feature, not a bug - as long as the clamoring is polite, which should apply to anything.
I don't feel like choosing which apparel to make universal should be a one-off deal.
First stage should be emperor's new clothes and marva's cloak - 0 art involvement there, and useful for all the reasons people put those things on modern dragons (yes, including the former, it's great if you want to protect a dragon from sale or exaltation but no design items or familiars fit with your personal lore for it) - and the simplest possible stuff like flowerfalls and auras.
Then things like floaty pets, emblems, mouth flowers, etc can be worked on slowly in the background. And it can mostly done by average humans as opposed to Capital-A-Artists (my own talents fall short of stick figures, Artists are superhuman and should be worshipped as such, but even someone like lame little me can take an existing image and move/rotate it around in a box). The existing coding can be used to convert those items to universal apparel when the images are ready.
Perhaps even simple semi-fitted things (like very small jewelry/crowns/earrings - probably nothing on wings/legs to preserve flexibility for future ancient designs, but I'm pretty sure no FR dragon will ever be designed without a head) can become universal with time - especially going forward, because from what I understand (and it seems to make intuitive sense), adapting apprel to a new pose is easiest at the time the apparel is first being designed (iirc we were told that Obelisk apparel art was drawn alongside other breeds' for years' worth of releases before the breed was actually released, and I wouldn't be surprised if the next modern breed is already fully drawn and getting the same treatment now).
Ancients wearing pants and armor? Almost certainly never. But they could be a lot more dynamic and appealing than they are now with, from what I can tell, a disproportionally small amount of effort. From this user's perspective, putting said effort in that direction would do a lot more for my enjoyment than a whole new ancient breed would - I think the new gem ancient is pretty much a done deal, but maybe after that?
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DOES THIS DUMBCUNT WEBSITE HAVE TO GO DOWN FOR MAINTAINENCE
gonna be honest-
-five year long fart noise-
-five year long fart noise-
theyre not loading for me, what are these for?
A new achievement, Teacher's Pet, has been added.
A new achievement, Know It All, has been added.
A new achievement, Treasure for Trash, has been added.
A new achievement, Teacher's Pet, has been added.
A new achievement, Know It All, has been added.
A new achievement, Treasure for Trash, has been added.
i cant wait until we hit 10 digits and people start collecting their phone number dragons
anyone know how to get the full size images of dragons? not the "normal" size you see on the dragon page (350x350), but the same size as the skin/accent canvas dragon (750x750)
i wanna make an accent to cover part of a gene :(
i wanna make an accent to cover part of a gene :(
love the new ancient but I hate ancients y'know? I want to dress my dragons
The restoration cooldown for normal dragons has been halved!
I rarely use it, but it's great that is just 45 days instead of a whole ass season.
I rarely use it, but it's great that is just 45 days instead of a whole ass season.
Which Flights have the "wrong" eye color, and what colors should they have instead?
Wind has the worst eyes for me. I can't unsee the fartblast. I'd suggest maybe white or grey instead, but I think that might tread too much on the toes of Ice. Ice could become more blue to compensate, but we have enough blue already with Lightning & Water, and if Water becomes more green/aqua/teal, it might get confusing with Lightning or Nature.
I love the idea of two-toned eyes. Plague rare & primal have got the right idea with the green (yellow?)/red combo. And whichever Lightning eyeball it is that brings in a little copper to pair with the cyan, that one's great too.
I do think Flight Rising made good judgments with their color/element selections! Just wanted to chat about it.
...I KNOW I'm not the only one who sees the Wind fartblast.
Wind has the worst eyes for me. I can't unsee the fartblast. I'd suggest maybe white or grey instead, but I think that might tread too much on the toes of Ice. Ice could become more blue to compensate, but we have enough blue already with Lightning & Water, and if Water becomes more green/aqua/teal, it might get confusing with Lightning or Nature.
I love the idea of two-toned eyes. Plague rare & primal have got the right idea with the green (yellow?)/red combo. And whichever Lightning eyeball it is that brings in a little copper to pair with the cyan, that one's great too.
I do think Flight Rising made good judgments with their color/element selections! Just wanted to chat about it.
...I KNOW I'm not the only one who sees the Wind fartblast.
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