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Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

Wtf
Yes, ysdaars art is gorgeous, but they want 1500g for their 100copy skins?
And that markup is... Wow.

I used to like them and their art. But nowadays they seem greedy and arrogant..

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Same, I used to buy whole recolor sets of their skins, but can't afford to anymore. I'm rarely reselling UMAs I buy, so I see no point in paying extra for Ysdaar 'brand' for potential resale value.

Good on them to be able to sell 100 copies at 1500, but I'd rather have 2 skins from someone else even if I have to add some gems.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

wait, 1500g for 100 copy skins??

that's so scummy. 100 copies is 10 whole runs, barely what you'd call "limited". there's always several colors too, and i can see ysdaar is having trouble even selling all 100 copies. what a jerk move, pumping up the original price of your own skin just because there's nowhere else for people to buy.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

-1

People can overprice their own skins however they like. If you don't want to buy it for that price then... don't buy it? It's a bad business move imo but Ysdaar is being completely transparent about it. And in this case it's the equivalent of 15 bucks, big whoop. 🙄

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

oh don't worry, i'm not buying it :P i'm not accusing him of being opaque either. but i can think it's an asshole move to completely eschew the market standards of a skin's printing price out of sheer greed

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

He's not being an asshole/scummy by overpricing his own work, he's just being dumb. Nobody owes you their work at "market standards".

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

someone can absolutely be scummy overpricing their work lol what planet do you live on

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

no one's starving to death cuz they can't afford ysdaar's umas nonnie, unless you're deliberately misleading someone (eg rainbow sprite listed for 2kg as the "cheapest sprite") it's not scummy to price things how you want. get a grip

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Ayrt is living in some alternate dimension where it's apparently morally wrong for anyone to price a skin out of the range of what they personally want to pay

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

One where the word scummy implies someone being dishonest or scamming, neither of which is happening here. If people are willing to pay for a product at the price he sets it at then congratulations, that's the new market price.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

Good to know someone valuing their work is scummy.

I bet you use AI and think you're an artist.

Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

15 bucks ...damn, that's a lot of McChickens 0w0

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah idk how I feel about the person who called it "just 15 bucks." I'm just glad that this hasn't caught on with other accent artists. If one person does it, it's no big deal, but if everyone started doing it I'd be pretty upset...

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

-1

I think more people that I actually want UMAs from would have incentive to make UMAs.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

i miss the early 2000s for this actually being true

inflation blues

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

a meal is undoubtedly important but $15 can get at MAX two mcchickens where i am 😭 where is this anon located where $15 can buy a kings chicken feast

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I can get a mcchicken for like 1.34 where I’m at. Maybe I couldn’t get 15, but I could definitely grab 10. I’m in the US South though, so, that’s the price I have to pay for cheap mcchickens. 😔

A SMALL French fry is 2 dollars here though, which is crazy. That’s the real rip off, not a dragon skin.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

dammmn lol, even in the middling midwest it was more expensive than this for me, around $4 a mcchicken

congrats on your feast potential, sorry about the texas

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Holy crap, where do you live where mcchickens are that expensive!?

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I need that 15 dollars to eat but it's not going to get me that far lmao

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

bring back the dollar menu, dammit.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I agree with you on half of this. Artists should be allowed to price their own art at whatever value they want to put on it. If someone doesn't want to pay that much or can't afford it, then obviously don't buy it. Artists absolutely do not owe anyone anything.

But your "15 bucks, big whoop" comment is out of touch and insensitive. $15 can be the difference between eating and not eating for some people. I get that if you are having trouble paying for food, in general you shouldn't be wasting money on skins, but my point is that while $15 may be nothing for some people, to others it is worth a whole lot more.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

You've misinterpreted my comment. 15 bucks is the the difference of eating or not eating for me. It's also a very cheap price for a piece of art at that quality, even if people are used to getting skins for the "market price" of a few dollars on FR. It's still pretty dumb to price things above what people are willing to pay for if you're trying to actually sell your art, but that doesn't mean the art isn't worth more than the base price of a shitty sketch on Twitter.

I know that the FR skin market is its own bubble that varies next to UM skin and apparel markets on other sites, as well as the rates for original art in general... But even considering the possibility that anon has never looked at art pricing outside of FR umas, it's still weird to see people calling an artist scammy over pricing a skin this for 15 bucks. :P

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

+1
$15 is $15 dollars.
but saying "1500g is $15 & therefore an accent being priced @ 1500g is scummy" is ridiculous.
1500g skins aren't the problem. people pay that & more all the time, and the USD price to purchase 1500g isn't the true "value" of any given 1500g, because there's no Legitimate way to turn gems back into dollars.
flipping other people's 500g accents for 1500g en masse is the part that edges into scummy territory. there's "natural price increase over time," & then there's "immediate reselling for ten times the initial price."
regardless, nothing about reselling and/or its morality has anything to do with how an artist prices their own art.

Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I agree I think nonnies up thread were conflating someone flipping a bunch of skins with someone setting high prices for their own UMAs, which is two different things. 15kg is also less valuable than $15 for sure, calling it the equivalent was honestly generous. Can I use it to buy McChicken? (Call me if you want to trade 15kg for McChicken)

I'm getting flashbacks to the person that had a tantrum on SMR about an artist setting high prices and limited slots for a skin run a few months ago, and how it was so mean and immoral of the artist to not dedicate hours of gametime to managing bigger spreadsheets and fulfilling tons of cheap orders. How dare they have limited slots for a skin other people were willing to pay for!