I agree with you on half of this. Artists should be allowed to price their own art at whatever value they want to put on it. If someone doesn't want to pay that much or can't afford it, then obviously don't buy it. Artists absolutely do not owe anyone anything.
But your "15 bucks, big whoop" comment is out of touch and insensitive. $15 can be the difference between eating and not eating for some people. I get that if you are having trouble paying for food, in general you shouldn't be wasting money on skins, but my point is that while $15 may be nothing for some people, to others it is worth a whole lot more.
You've misinterpreted my comment. 15 bucks is the the difference of eating or not eating for me. It's also a very cheap price for a piece of art at that quality, even if people are used to getting skins for the "market price" of a few dollars on FR. It's still pretty dumb to price things above what people are willing to pay for if you're trying to actually sell your art, but that doesn't mean the art isn't worth more than the base price of a shitty sketch on Twitter.
I know that the FR skin market is its own bubble that varies next to UM skin and apparel markets on other sites, as well as the rates for original art in general... But even considering the possibility that anon has never looked at art pricing outside of FR umas, it's still weird to see people calling an artist scammy over pricing a skin this for 15 bucks. :P
+1 $15 is $15 dollars. but saying "1500g is $15 & therefore an accent being priced @ 1500g is scummy" is ridiculous. 1500g skins aren't the problem. people pay that & more all the time, and the USD price to purchase 1500g isn't the true "value" of any given 1500g, because there's no Legitimate way to turn gems back into dollars. flipping other people's 500g accents for 1500g en masse is the part that edges into scummy territory. there's "natural price increase over time," & then there's "immediate reselling for ten times the initial price." regardless, nothing about reselling and/or its morality has anything to do with how an artist prices their own art.
Yeah I agree I think nonnies up thread were conflating someone flipping a bunch of skins with someone setting high prices for their own UMAs, which is two different things. 15kg is also less valuable than $15 for sure, calling it the equivalent was honestly generous. Can I use it to buy McChicken? (Call me if you want to trade 15kg for McChicken)
I'm getting flashbacks to the person that had a tantrum on SMR about an artist setting high prices and limited slots for a skin run a few months ago, and how it was so mean and immoral of the artist to not dedicate hours of gametime to managing bigger spreadsheets and fulfilling tons of cheap orders. How dare they have limited slots for a skin other people were willing to pay for!
just to clarify, people were picking $15 USD as the equivalent to 1,500 gems because $20 USD gets you around 2,000 gems/2kg (2150 gems, to be exact). the $100 USD pack gets you 11,500 gems. so 15kg would run you $150 USD. given that, i'd buy a whole nuclear family a round of McChickens in return for 15kg :P
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Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)I agree with you on half of this. Artists should be allowed to price their own art at whatever value they want to put on it. If someone doesn't want to pay that much or can't afford it, then obviously don't buy it. Artists absolutely do not owe anyone anything.
But your "15 bucks, big whoop" comment is out of touch and insensitive. $15 can be the difference between eating and not eating for some people. I get that if you are having trouble paying for food, in general you shouldn't be wasting money on skins, but my point is that while $15 may be nothing for some people, to others it is worth a whole lot more.
Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 01:21 am (UTC)(link)You've misinterpreted my comment. 15 bucks is the the difference of eating or not eating for me. It's also a very cheap price for a piece of art at that quality, even if people are used to getting skins for the "market price" of a few dollars on FR. It's still pretty dumb to price things above what people are willing to pay for if you're trying to actually sell your art, but that doesn't mean the art isn't worth more than the base price of a shitty sketch on Twitter.
I know that the FR skin market is its own bubble that varies next to UM skin and apparel markets on other sites, as well as the rates for original art in general... But even considering the possibility that anon has never looked at art pricing outside of FR umas, it's still weird to see people calling an artist scammy over pricing a skin this for 15 bucks. :P
Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 02:39 am (UTC)(link)$15 is $15 dollars.
but saying "1500g is $15 & therefore an accent being priced @ 1500g is scummy" is ridiculous.
1500g skins aren't the problem. people pay that & more all the time, and the USD price to purchase 1500g isn't the true "value" of any given 1500g, because there's no Legitimate way to turn gems back into dollars.
flipping other people's 500g accents for 1500g en masse is the part that edges into scummy territory. there's "natural price increase over time," & then there's "immediate reselling for ten times the initial price."
regardless, nothing about reselling and/or its morality has anything to do with how an artist prices their own art.
Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 06:20 am (UTC)(link)I'm getting flashbacks to the person that had a tantrum on SMR about an artist setting high prices and limited slots for a skin run a few months ago, and how it was so mean and immoral of the artist to not dedicate hours of gametime to managing bigger spreadsheets and fulfilling tons of cheap orders. How dare they have limited slots for a skin other people were willing to pay for!
Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-04 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)the $100 USD pack gets you 11,500 gems. so 15kg would run you $150 USD.
given that, i'd buy a whole nuclear family a round of McChickens in return for 15kg :P
Re: G1 Imps - Ysdaar
(Anonymous) 2023-08-04 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)