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DA

Love how everyone is jumping straight to dom mutiny without knowing the other half of the story. Not an ember, but I will agree that it does seem like Fire needs some reorganization. However, it's super easy to tell another flight what they need to do dom-wise, but a lot harder to implement than you think. I'm not sure how many of you have been on a dom team, but the dom culture in each flight is different. Sometimes it is very hard to find capable committed volunteers to run things. People often volunteer and then disappear when they realize how much work they actually have to put into running things. The volunteers that do stick need to be team players and get along with the rest of the members of the team. Which doesn't always happen. And it's a whole other thing to find trustworthy people to hold dom banks and valuable items. Add to that that Fire has lost their entire dom bank before, and I would guess that it's a little difficult for the dom lead to trust new people. (To be clear, I'm not saying that Fire doesn't need new leadership, I'm just saying that sometimes there's a lot more to it than you think.)

AYRT

I can only go by what's been said. If it isn't what it sounds like, I assume the people involved know and can shrug off any useless suggestions.

It seems likely that Duchess's absence right now is for RL reasons and not deliberate, and hopefully she's okay.

Except Duchess claims IRL instances for everything she misses out on and she has missed out on a lot. She'll come back mid-week or a week or two later and claim some ailment. I *left* Fire because of that behavior. It will be some illness or accident that you can't call her out on because then it makes you look bad but it is ALWAYS something.

Didn't give overnight funds to someone and so people used personal funds instead of dom funds?
'I had to take care of my pet'

Didn't give out prizes or make a peep on a dom thread after a week?
'The stress of the dom push made me sick, I had to go to the hospital for ulcers'

It is every time and fire peeps just refused to listen. So there will be another excuse, people will rally behind her and send her gifts to hope she gets better and fire will move on with this train wreck. Just saying to all the other embers? It's completely different in other flights. Good luck.

It just sounds like she shouldn't be in Fire's dom team if she's running into so many issues that actively prevents her from doing her fucking job. Why are some embers enabling this? What exactly is she providing to the flight, other than her holding on to most if not all of the dom bank, that folks are letting her stay in power? Seems like it's better in the long run to just cut their losses and kick her out. Hopefully this time embers will learn NOT to put their entire bank on one person.

nayrt

It's exactly what you said - it's tough to boot someone when they hold all the resources. However, I agree that embers should just push for it. Their spreadsheets are formatted terribly, so its not like they'd be losing much there if they can't get access to the base sheets. It sounds like Duchess uses the vault for her own means anyway, so might as well start a new one, etc.

you have nothing to lose but your chains, embers

So I've been in the talks with the AA and somehow they're saying that Duchess has never done these things. Which is complete bullshit because there's proof out there that she's done this. So I'll show them myself if I have to.

So folks, give me evidence, while I can trawl through the Fire-side of things. Apparently, because they want proof these things happened, they're more inclined to believe this has only happened once. You know, the whole disappearing act.

The only things I've seen in public are the shitstorm from last year: https://anonrerising.dreamwidth.org/4583.html?thread=4169447#cmt4169447

FRD thread:
https://imgur.com/a/WGthff3
https://web.archive.org/web/20220822215313/https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3163153
https://web.archive.org/web/20220822221049/https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3163153/2

Discord messages in Fire discord (?) about the thread:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ujNeL-dQSqb7W8abLaxA5FxD2WSn7sNlPTu4eAxcoeE/edit

Perhaps there's more on SMR or DRR but it's hard to search when they don't allow full namedropping. Good luck compiling, nonny.

sa

Those links don't really have specific instances of her doing that though, at least from a quick skim through. But the shitstorm last year spoke for themselves.

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(Anonymous) - 2023-08-27 08:17 (UTC) - Expand

who is LSPVSS or whatever i want to block them on fr

If they're doing that, Fire just joined my list of flights to never support again. The last support that they get from me is a foddart gem accent purchase because I'm not the kind of jerk to back out there.

I don't know about other flights, but in Fire, artists keep 100% of their foddart proceeds. So foddart already doesn't (directly) support the bank.

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if that's their stance and handling of this then they deserve all the shit happening and that will happen in the future! sorry not sorry but Fire dearest, it's way past time to learn from your mistakes

as an ember who's only ever been barely involved in dom i sort of want to help out but i literally don't even know who's in AA or who makes all these decisions and i feel like i'm getting myself into more drama and trouble than it's worth. i'm debating if i should just stay away.

NAYRT that's totally fair but Duchess preventing positive change from occurring and otherwise hindering Fire Dom from improving has been a known problem for years. of course embers may not have the werewithal to mutiny which i obviously get but the alternative is the current situation proceeding unchanged. Fire has artists (their foddart offerings are impressive) and attendants, as well as new orgs like Pessi who want to change things and are chafing at the bit. there's a lot of potential for improvement.

i really care about the dom scene on FR and i legit feel for all the embers who love their flight and community but whose experience is not as good as it could be due to the actions of a single or small group of people. it's not fair, and it's also a bummer for the other flights because having another competitive team in the dom space would be great for everyone. we're stuck with 11 flights so if some of them aren't dom oriented there's fewer good matches for battles and fewer new ideas being generated.

Fire is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They might need to start over fresh and I am sure people will support them. Look at what embers are doing! Look at the 50/50 for example. Those prizes below the prize pot are amazing. I just really hope that host does not give generated funds to duchess but instead to pessi.

I am going to bet that duchess comes back end of the week and says I am so sorry guys I had a medical/environmental/personal emergency pop up and couldn't contact anyone to let them know what was up. Then write this whole woe is me thing again and make people feel so bad for doubting her. People will send her items out of guilt for thinking ppoorly.

nayrt

its wild to me that the 50-50 raffle has better prizes than the OOF raffle and i would wager IF raffle as well

da

It for sure does! The 50/50 is super impressive, and I'm proud of the new dom and event people being the change they want to see. If we do end up making a new dom team, I'll throw my money behind them

nayrt bruh I'm literally not even in Fire but if a new dom team rose up I'd donate 10kg to their new bank. I want to see embers get a fresh start.

Same. I was in fire and want to see them become what they were back with phys in charge. I would give anything for that!

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(Anonymous) - 2023-08-22 19:00 (UTC) - Expand

Does anyone think it is a good idea dragons locked up in duchess lair are being used as prizes for the oof?

Pessi:

No I don't, I may have said dragons replaced for now as there has still been no response. I am even willing to give away some of my own- i believe I have some that people may like, or hell,,, ill pull out my own funds or *something*.

da

part of being on a dom team is often pulling out of your own funds to provide stuff, but not this much like god damn

da this is something you should be able to fundraise for within the flight

I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this. It sounds like a lot.

Friendly advice from someone who has put together a bunch of raffles. Don't worry about using your own dragons. If you make a post in flight asking for dragon prize donations, plenty of people will offer dragons. Just make sure that you list specific criteria or you are going to get deluged with dragons that no one will want to win in a raffle. You'll want to ask for things like level 25's, gen 1's with matching colors, older dragons. No offspring. (Genes on gen 1's do not matter, most people will want to gene themselves.)