+100, there are a couple people who over-ping for their over-priced oldies & it drives me wild. @/After is a price-inflater for sure. You know who's the worst though? @/ALYXSANDRE. SO many pings. Always the same dragons, but totally cheaper this time guys! Still double LAH/conventional prices though. But toss me an offer! But not that offer. And not for that dragon. Complete with a little guilt-trippy "well I didn't WANT to let that one go, but I GUESS I will lol" like bud??? You know you can just keep the dragons you don't want to sell, right? MERCY ME. I'd block these people but it would block me out of the oldie market too LMAO. Please tell me other people feel the same way and I'm not just going "bitch eating crackers" on this issue lol
+1, these people always give me (and probably others) a false sense of high values when selling G1s myself. I look at their dragons sometimes and think "oh I have a dragon that looks like this one, I wonder if I could actually get around 5kG for it." But then I see that their dragons never sell. I never list anything for that high, because I've struggled to sell dragons even at reasonable prices (typically under 500g/kT), so there's absolutely no way I could sell a good looking non-double for 5kG lol. Plus, the market is so heavily saturated now, it's hard to sell anything in general, people are gonna prefer the cheaper options if they can find it.
It's really ridiculous. People less versed in the market see those prices and think they'll actually get a price in that range for their dragons, when really it's so far beyond the reasonable realm of probability that it's laughable. Just like people trying to price things based only on LAH - like, no, regular bred 5-digits don't actually go for 35kg unless they're G1 or Earth element. They're still 20kg. Dragons you see on the auction house are the ones NOT being bought. There are some 6-digits listed on the AH that I just see over and over again because people are too stubborn to lower the price.
Adding @/Blackiebelle to the list of price inflaters for that exact reason - #603722 did Not sell for 4000g last year & chances are he's Not selling for 4kg this year, either. Don't people get sick of relisting the same auctions over and over again? Lower your prices and ya might actually sell something!
Sometimes I know it's people trying to recoup costs of scatterscrolling or whatever, but you're never gonna get that back. It's always a gamble, and when you lose, you gotta eat the loss - speaking as someone who has also scattered & sold oldies. You're paying for the thrill of RNG.
Also weird how Alyxsandre, potentially the most public/notorious scatterscroller on the website (unless maybe you count that one guy who is spending the full ass 350kg to scroll a random dragon 1000 times... in honor of... the thousandth episode of One Piece...), wants to sell that one super scattered dragon Only to someone who won't Imp scroll him. Why? He's an unbred G1 5-digit. He's the perfect candidate for an Imp scroll. "Once you sell it, it's no longer yours" is such a simple yet oft-forgotten concept on FR. You get the money, and your buyer gets the control. End of transaction.
Started in 2021. Still active in 2023. Around 150 scatters in. Approaching 50 pages long. I am so sick of seeing this thread... But blocking doesn't hide it from view, so whatever. I am touching my houseplant and looking the other way.
I knew I couldn't be the only one who constantly feels weirded out by Alyxsandre. Between their obviously terrible price tactics and their entitlement to dragons that are sold, I'm just so over them.
Yeah, it's definitely weird. I understand sending a sign-off like "I loved this dragon for a long time - I hope you enjoy him, too!" but trying to have rules & regulations about dragons that you sell is an overreach to say the least.
This is a transaction, not a custody deal. You can't keep him on weekends.
Weekly food rations & an Eliminate ain't gonna cut it either. What's your yearly income, co-parent, cuz imma need a good percentage of that for my new 10-year-old son.
They hunted down players who don't play anymore, hit them with sob stories about how they've always wanted a dragon like that (usually two letter or 5 digit), and then try to flip them a month later for 20x what they were bought for.
NAYRT, but this behavior is so scummy, and sadly way more common than it should be. People should always be wary of "cold calls" for that exact reason - you don't want to overpay for what they're trying to sell you, or get underpaid for what they're trying to buy. That's why I always include recent, verifiable price history with my sales inquiry PMs. Something like, "hey there, I was searching for ___ and came across your dragon, (name) #___ - would you possibly be willing to sell? Here's a list of recent forum auctions (successfully sold or not) so you can get an idea of the current market. Here are the qualities that impact your dragon's pricing. Given that information, here is the price range I am prepared to offer. Here is the reason why I am interested in this dragon specifically. If you aren't interested in selling, feel free to ignore this message, and thank you for your time."
Some people have difficulty saying no, so writing your PM with a built-in "acceptance of rejection" is a great way to create more comfort in the interaction for the person you are approaching. Using this approach has lead to a sale around 80% of the time for me, and I have never actually been ignored thus far. If your PM is rude or off-putting, that doesn't create the environment of cooperation necessary for a successful transaction. Politeness is key!
Those who take advantage of kindness or naivete might get a hold of what they think they want materially, but with such a skewed approach they will never be able to keep hold of true happiness. Xoxox
Oh goody, so they're worse than I thought lol. same for Blackiebelle and Alysandrine. Or when people sell oldies for expensive cause they've had them for so long but just can't work with it/colors, it's sadly only collecting dust. When they just snagged it a week before for <10kt. Bruh, if you're reselling at least own up to it and don't make up a sobstory
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Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)+1, these people always give me (and probably others) a false sense of high values when selling G1s myself. I look at their dragons sometimes and think "oh I have a dragon that looks like this one, I wonder if I could actually get around 5kG for it." But then I see that their dragons never sell. I never list anything for that high, because I've struggled to sell dragons even at reasonable prices (typically under 500g/kT), so there's absolutely no way I could sell a good looking non-double for 5kG lol. Plus, the market is so heavily saturated now, it's hard to sell anything in general, people are gonna prefer the cheaper options if they can find it.
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)Adding @/Blackiebelle to the list of price inflaters for that exact reason - #603722 did Not sell for 4000g last year & chances are he's Not selling for 4kg this year, either. Don't people get sick of relisting the same auctions over and over again? Lower your prices and ya might actually sell something!
Sometimes I know it's people trying to recoup costs of scatterscrolling or whatever, but you're never gonna get that back. It's always a gamble, and when you lose, you gotta eat the loss - speaking as someone who has also scattered & sold oldies. You're paying for the thrill of RNG.
Also weird how Alyxsandre, potentially the most public/notorious scatterscroller on the website (unless maybe you count that one guy who is spending the full ass 350kg to scroll a random dragon 1000 times... in honor of... the thousandth episode of One Piece...), wants to sell that one super scattered dragon Only to someone who won't Imp scroll him. Why? He's an unbred G1 5-digit. He's the perfect candidate for an Imp scroll. "Once you sell it, it's no longer yours" is such a simple yet oft-forgotten concept on FR. You get the money, and your buyer gets the control. End of transaction.
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)Started in 2021. Still active in 2023. Around 150 scatters in. Approaching 50 pages long. I am so sick of seeing this thread... But blocking doesn't hide it from view, so whatever. I am touching my houseplant and looking the other way.
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 05:47 am (UTC)(link)Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)This is a transaction, not a custody deal. You can't keep him on weekends.
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)They hunted down players who don't play anymore, hit them with sob stories about how they've always wanted a dragon like that (usually two letter or 5 digit), and then try to flip them a month later for 20x what they were bought for.
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-16 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)Some people have difficulty saying no, so writing your PM with a built-in "acceptance of rejection" is a great way to create more comfort in the interaction for the person you are approaching. Using this approach has lead to a sale around 80% of the time for me, and I have never actually been ignored thus far.
If your PM is rude or off-putting, that doesn't create the environment of cooperation necessary for a successful transaction. Politeness is key!
Those who take advantage of kindness or naivete might get a hold of what they think they want materially, but with such a skewed approach they will never be able to keep hold of true happiness.
Xoxox
Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?
(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 06:11 am (UTC)(link)same for Blackiebelle and Alysandrine.
Or when people sell oldies for expensive cause they've had them for so long but just can't work with it/colors, it's sadly only collecting dust. When they just snagged it a week before for <10kt.
Bruh, if you're reselling at least own up to it and don't make up a sobstory