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I got pinged for 7 digit sales by After.
And... Those aren't normal prices, are they? 6-10kg for an unbred XXX, even non Imps?! They state that that's LAH, but come on, 6 digits are cheaper.

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/baz/3255404#post_3255404

After is a piece of shit

I can get this off my chest. they used to message me for my old dragons, give a lowball offer saying "they only had one" "its a dream"

They hold old dragons in their lair for about 2 weeks then sell at a high as fuck price to "make room"

This is good to know, thanks nonny. To the blocklist they go

They also did this to me years ago! They spent a while on my 5 digit sales thread trying to offer 4kg-7kg because "they have bought many at that price", I didnt know much at the time so I was really upset they derailed my sales thread to devalue my dragon. Ive been annoyed about it ever since and spent hours trying to find it when I knew better years later because it was public but they must have deleted the evidence

nayrt

bruh 4kG for a 5 digit is insane. like mayyyybe i could let it slide if they were offering 15kG for a high 5-digit with a rough offspring list but 4kG??? the only way id accept 4kG for a 5 digit is if they were also sucking the balls

Lmaoooo anon you are so correct. 11kg for a bit of gargling is a great deal too

in my humble non-professional opinion, i don't know about asking for that much for those. i personally got a matchy, low bred, lower 7 digit ACTUAL imp for less than that, even. goodness. but maybe i just got lucky with that, it was some handful of years ago.

i would not consider that 6 dig imp they have to be worth that much, colors/color pattern considering - you can go on the ah right now and find a true xxy 6 dig imp for 9.5kg, though i suppose having slightly more offspring might affect that based on the buyer. i personally wouldn't shell out.

idk about the rest of the dragons. that xxx white one might just be worth that much because of. well. being lvl 25 and unbred. though i did find a nice xxx with matching eyes and very few offspring for... 1.2kg. it's even older than after's. but to each seller their own prices i guess.

I haven't had any bad experience with After, but it's weird that most of their 7 digits are more expensive than the 6 digits

+100, there are a couple people who over-ping for their over-priced oldies & it drives me wild. @/After is a price-inflater for sure. You know who's the worst though? @/ALYXSANDRE. SO many pings. Always the same dragons, but totally cheaper this time guys! Still double LAH/conventional prices though. But toss me an offer! But not that offer. And not for that dragon. Complete with a little guilt-trippy "well I didn't WANT to let that one go, but I GUESS I will lol" like bud??? You know you can just keep the dragons you don't want to sell, right? MERCY ME. I'd block these people but it would block me out of the oldie market too LMAO. Please tell me other people feel the same way and I'm not just going "bitch eating crackers" on this issue lol

DA

+1, these people always give me (and probably others) a false sense of high values when selling G1s myself. I look at their dragons sometimes and think "oh I have a dragon that looks like this one, I wonder if I could actually get around 5kG for it." But then I see that their dragons never sell. I never list anything for that high, because I've struggled to sell dragons even at reasonable prices (typically under 500g/kT), so there's absolutely no way I could sell a good looking non-double for 5kG lol. Plus, the market is so heavily saturated now, it's hard to sell anything in general, people are gonna prefer the cheaper options if they can find it.

It's really ridiculous. People less versed in the market see those prices and think they'll actually get a price in that range for their dragons, when really it's so far beyond the reasonable realm of probability that it's laughable. Just like people trying to price things based only on LAH - like, no, regular bred 5-digits don't actually go for 35kg unless they're G1 or Earth element. They're still 20kg. Dragons you see on the auction house are the ones NOT being bought. There are some 6-digits listed on the AH that I just see over and over again because people are too stubborn to lower the price.

Adding @/Blackiebelle to the list of price inflaters for that exact reason - #603722 did Not sell for 4000g last year & chances are he's Not selling for 4kg this year, either. Don't people get sick of relisting the same auctions over and over again? Lower your prices and ya might actually sell something!

Sometimes I know it's people trying to recoup costs of scatterscrolling or whatever, but you're never gonna get that back. It's always a gamble, and when you lose, you gotta eat the loss - speaking as someone who has also scattered & sold oldies. You're paying for the thrill of RNG.

Also weird how Alyxsandre, potentially the most public/notorious scatterscroller on the website (unless maybe you count that one guy who is spending the full ass 350kg to scroll a random dragon 1000 times... in honor of... the thousandth episode of One Piece...), wants to sell that one super scattered dragon Only to someone who won't Imp scroll him. Why? He's an unbred G1 5-digit. He's the perfect candidate for an Imp scroll. "Once you sell it, it's no longer yours" is such a simple yet oft-forgotten concept on FR. You get the money, and your buyer gets the control. End of transaction.

Where's the One Piece scatter guy? I want to watch

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/drs/2956277/1

Started in 2021. Still active in 2023. Around 150 scatters in. Approaching 50 pages long. I am so sick of seeing this thread... But blocking doesn't hide it from view, so whatever. I am touching my houseplant and looking the other way.

I knew I couldn't be the only one who constantly feels weirded out by Alyxsandre. Between their obviously terrible price tactics and their entitlement to dragons that are sold, I'm just so over them.

Yeah, it's definitely weird. I understand sending a sign-off like "I loved this dragon for a long time - I hope you enjoy him, too!" but trying to have rules & regulations about dragons that you sell is an overreach to say the least.

This is a transaction, not a custody deal. You can't keep him on weekends.

if they want a say in how you're raising the dragon they're gonna have to cough up some child support

Re: After - ridiculous 7digit pricing?

(Anonymous) - 2023-07-16 20:50 (UTC) - Expand

It's not just you, anon.

They hunted down players who don't play anymore, hit them with sob stories about how they've always wanted a dragon like that (usually two letter or 5 digit), and then try to flip them a month later for 20x what they were bought for.

NAYRT, but this behavior is so scummy, and sadly way more common than it should be. People should always be wary of "cold calls" for that exact reason - you don't want to overpay for what they're trying to sell you, or get underpaid for what they're trying to buy. That's why I always include recent, verifiable price history with my sales inquiry PMs. Something like, "hey there, I was searching for ___ and came across your dragon, (name) #___ - would you possibly be willing to sell? Here's a list of recent forum auctions (successfully sold or not) so you can get an idea of the current market. Here are the qualities that impact your dragon's pricing. Given that information, here is the price range I am prepared to offer. Here is the reason why I am interested in this dragon specifically. If you aren't interested in selling, feel free to ignore this message, and thank you for your time."

Some people have difficulty saying no, so writing your PM with a built-in "acceptance of rejection" is a great way to create more comfort in the interaction for the person you are approaching. Using this approach has lead to a sale around 80% of the time for me, and I have never actually been ignored thus far.
If your PM is rude or off-putting, that doesn't create the environment of cooperation necessary for a successful transaction. Politeness is key!

Those who take advantage of kindness or naivete might get a hold of what they think they want materially, but with such a skewed approach they will never be able to keep hold of true happiness.
Xoxox

Oh goody, so they're worse than I thought lol.
same for Blackiebelle and Alysandrine.
Or when people sell oldies for expensive cause they've had them for so long but just can't work with it/colors, it's sadly only collecting dust. When they just snagged it a week before for <10kt.
Bruh, if you're reselling at least own up to it and don't make up a sobstory

+1 to all the fuck After anons

I don't get people like After. I've watched them exalt dragons that people were offering them slightly less than what the dragon was listed on the AH, and they refuse to come down on the price. At this point I truly think they do it just to be malicious to random people.

It does feel very much like spite-exalting in those cases. Blocked them a while ago, but it was the same deal with Supremacy/Eviscerate/whatever oddly aggressive word-name they're using nowadays. Constantly new sales threads with the same G1s at slightly lowered but still exorbitant prices, always with the weird guilt-trippy tone, rejection of reasonable offers, and ~ looming threat of exaltation ~ mixed into the threads. It's a yucky, gatekeepy "exclusive club" approach to G1 collecting that ends up giving the whole G1 community a bad name, and discourages other players from participating.
"If you won't pay out the nose for this dragon, then NO ONE can have it! Bahahaha!"
Like, are you trying to engage in a hobby you enjoy, or are you more interested in creating your own virtual pet drama & mini-misery? Yikes.
... I'm just happy to be a Commenter on the drama rather than an active participant in the events, lmao.

ughhhh eviscerate is *the fucking worst* for the weird passive aggressive ~sales~ tactics. like, you've been threatening to exalt those g1s forever. just do it and shut up about it, jfc.

Eviscerate wouldn't have to be passive aggressive about sales to get gems if they weren't snapping up accents and reselling them for 4 times their sale price.

The four horsemen of the overpricing: UMAs. G1s. Old dragons. And Y1 retired items.

Always got someone tryna snap em up to hoard & overvalue. Isn't there a player who habitually buys up the available Light Sprites in a bid to control market price? Or am I just Making Up A Guy (TM)

light sprite's inflation is infernally stupid to me. going from 25kG -> 50kG in a year or two felt dramatic, but then hiking up to 100kG+? are people actually buying them at this point or are they just being unnecessarily inflated for use in cross-site/KS trades...? if youre saving up 150kG you might as well go for the actual prestige items and just get a scroll case or some other KS item