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Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Hello! Pessi/AA member here:

The OP has not been online both on FR and on Discord, so I had to take the reigns a bit and notify others to make the new threads for now while they are (and I during the time of hearing this was) away- we do not know why they are offline currently. We are sincerely sorry for the delay that was caused.

Also, banners/headers will be put up tomorrow, i’d have them finished sooner, but I do need to go to bed due to work tomorrow. Expect them to be done a few hours after 6PM EST. Work has been assuredly started on them, but I wanted to make sure that the raffles went ahead and be posted and some clear communication is given in regards to this.

Should any further questions need answering, I do recommend contacting me on discord (iipessimystic) so that I or another member I can refer said questions to can address ‘em in a timely manner as I rarely check this site.

Again, sincere apologies :(

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Real life is more important than dragon pngs. I hope your work will be bearable tomorrow!

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! Didn’t get too much sleep but im awake, probs adrenaline haha :P

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

that's so scary that Duchess went AWOL. I hope they're okay :(

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Duchess will be fine. They will pop up with a sympathetic story for everyone to fall for like normal.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

how does it feel to be completely and utterly correct?

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

it must suck to be part of the site's most incompetent dom team, huh. Duchess mysteriously disappearing couldn't have possibly been accounted for, and I hope they're okay, but- you didn't have a plan B in case the person in that position suddenly couldn't do their job, such as if an unexpected emergency came up? You didn't even have the graphics ready?? YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE GRAPHICS READY???

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Not a member of fire, but good lord dude. Get your head out of your ass. A member of their team vanished without a word when there are disasters that they could be in, one of the team explained, and you are blowing up on them.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Bro your ability to drain fire's dom bank is not more important than the irl safety of their dom team

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

it must suck to be such a fucking asshole nonny. get well soon :(

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with the tone of this anon's response but it is strange that there was nobody available to make functional replacement posts (at this point the oof raffle is up but there is no way to send to it) and that it appears that no graphics are complete when that is a process that should've begun weeks ago.

It is possible to both have empathy for those involved and acknowledge that a better plan could be put into place to handle events like this in the future. I hope everything turns out alright for all involved.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

DA, +1

I hope the people involved are alright in the end and that this is just a one-off incident. It's not a good look with an ember warning us here a month or so ago and with whatever the fuck happened last year though.

Ngl, I have to say the response by Pessi citing IRL issues kinda came off like what arcane dom was doing and I really hope this isn't something to be repeated as an excuse. IRL is something everyone has to deal with but a dom team is supposed to have multiple people behind it. There's also the entire flight to back them if necessary and drawing help from them (by you know, actually asking since people can't read minds) shouldn't be something that the dom team avoids.

It's very odd that even embers seem to be clueless as to what's going on.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

hi, I'm one of the embers that came to warn everyone a few months back (at the end of Thundercrack, actually) about how I didn't have faith in the Dom Team to have stuff ready for this push and cited last year's problems.

The thing is, the majority of the team is fine. Most of the people had major issues with Duchess' handling of things, and if people remember the leaks of the Dom Issues thread in the Fire Flight Discord, the main problems outlined were:

- communication from the team to the flight
- who can run events
- lack of proper prep for the flight's push
- wanting more pushes/more events

This may be outing myself slightly but I was one of the main vocal people in that thread trying to propose solutions, and a number of us very concerned people from last year decided to take on new roles to try and alleviate the issues we had with last year's push. I became an event runner, and Pessi was one of those people who also stepped up and joined the AA to try and help fix the issues.

I don't want to think that this is the case, but I had people warning me last year that the issue is more to do with a particular head of the team that wants to keep it so that they run things and not let the others deviate just slightly. It's most likely why the rest of the team were like "what do we do what do we do" instead of going to deviate and getting the thread up without the graphics so the attendants could actually do their jobs.

I honestly wished my gut instinct wasn't correct because it was warning me that this year's fest push would go up in flames (har har) spectacularly and I wasn't expecting this. Especially since I encouraged a lot of new people to help join the events and the raffle/public buy so that they felt involved and could help out.

Sometimes it feels like I've poured more into the community with what I've done than what the main lead has done over the course of the year alone and I don't think it's fair tbh.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

da

honestly you should ice this person out. unless they have the whole dom/raffle bank or they're the owner of the discord or something they actually don't have a lot of power on their own. even if they have significant flight resources those can be fundraised for. you can just all make your own threads and spreadsheets yourself. you wouldn't even be starting from scratch if you had some current leads on the new dom team.

it's not a great time to start afresh considering the upcoming battle but i think people would really root for you if this happened, and you can crowd source knowledge. i used to be a dom lead and if this situation happened i would gladly reach out to offer advice and what bit of institutional knowledge from my flight i can pass on. i think a lot of other people would feel the same, and the water flight team doesn't seem like they'd be dicks about it or anything, so.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

da

Fire seems like a tough flight to try to do dom in. You guys could be like earth, but Fire has had so many collapses and the blows never seem to stop. Idk how you sustain an organization in that, it would make sense if its just one person trying to keep the reigns and letting it fall apart around them. Still, I really hope its just that Duchess had something happen and ultimately shows up healthy

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Pessi again:

No we did not have a backup ready at the time but we had the code and worked with that.

Secondly, no, the banner and headers were not ready. I have been busy trying to apply for my first ever job as a veterinarian assistant, which was very tedious to do, as well as working on paid for commissions in my queue, my sister’s sweet 16, working towards getting a driver’s permit, etc. I am not payed to do this for fire dom- this is voluntary work as an AA member. That being said, please understand why not all of the graphics were ready as I had to tend to important irl things, thank you.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

da

don't even justify this with a response Pessi, everyone gets it. This person is just being an ass

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Pessi, just ignore the idiot. He's more concerned with his wallet than the well-being of actual people.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Would Duchess even allow you to have a back up? I remember when I was in fire. A group of users had made the prizes with the flight and the theme for a profit push and everything. Duchess 'offered' to host the in flight raffle and then ghosted after the thread was up for 2 weeks. There was information we needed updated within the raffle post, but it never got updated. At the time, the rest of the team did not have access to the ping lists for fire so they were trying to type updates on discord and the forum. It was a hot mess. We placed 7th as a profit pushing flight when no one else was pushing actively.

Then Duchess 'lost' some prizes and had to regret them so I had to wait for my prize an extra 2 weeks. Why is she in leadership again? 8/10 reasons why I left fire was her mismanagement of dom.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT; Hold on, you're the only person assigned to making graphics? Then it doesn't matter how busy or available you would have been, that's too much work for one person and it never would have been done on time anyway! Other flights have multiple volunteers for graphics, and different deadlines for concepts, sketches, and finished works, and the final deadline is at least a few days before the start of a push.

You're not being criticized for having a life outside the game. You're being criticized for the poor planning and organization by your team.

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Fire Dom stress aside, I hope you get that veterinarian assistant job and pass your drivers permit! You got this, Pessi!

It does suck that things got a little messy with the whole Fire Dom thing, but hey man shit happens lol

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Pessi here, an update on everything:

Me, and a few others plus the AA team are currently discussing what our best course of action is after this push. I will share details more on this later for transparency, but our consensus is that we have poor direction and management, as well as a need to reform how we currently operate as we are currently disorganized.

I do have some ideas to share on how we may reform this, and I will indeed be presenting that, as well as the opinions shared on this thread as well. Feel free to reply to this as well if there are arguments here that were not already shared!

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

Hey there!

I used to do dom organization years ago, and was put into a similar situation. The user who insisted on doing the oof raffle entirely solo disappeared (went on vacation without mentioning it) a few days before and left nothing but the sheet with the prizes done. When it was clear they weren't going to show, a few others and I scrambled to do the entire thing the night the raffle should've went up. We got it done and it turned out alright, but it was incredibly stressful and soured my feelings on dom stuff.

Anyway, point being, please take your time and don't worry about randos online being pushy about it. The situation you're in is horrible and not something you could plan for, and at the end of the day this is just a game we're all supposed to have fun with. Best of luck to you guys, and I hope Duchess is okay!

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Damn, that sucks.

Not to sound like an asshole, I’m just really curious. Why was 1 person even allowed to run something as big and overall most important in the push solo? It just seems like a terrible idea in general, not even counting natural disasters as outlined in your case. Like they just up and ghosted for a vacation of all things without telling anyone? I hope they aren’t in the dom team anymore for that stunt...

Re: FF2023

[(Anonymous)]

My crew and I were newish after a bunch of other stuff changed the majority of the dom team, with the raffle org being from the old team. It wasn't our first push organization in general, but it was our first holiday.

Basically they always handled the holiday raffle in prior years and there was never a problem. They insisted and we didn't want to argue with them, but yeah terrible idea on my part. This was years ago by now (2017?), and I'm willing to admit I wasn't the best at handling things and made some shitty moves myself, but I still can't help but get salty about it sometimes lol.