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mindlessflight ([personal profile] mindlessflight) wrote in [community profile] anonrerising2023-09-21 01:28 pm

Spooky Spite

An important update:

Due to a specific person being a complete child, comments are going to be screened by default.

This is only temporary, and I apologize for the inconvenience- this is going to be a pain in the ass for me, too, but multiple people have come forward about fears of doxxing, and this is the only way to make sure any doxxing is contained.

(This basically will force the doxxer to make a DW account to post any doxxing attempts unscreened, and will let me more reliably report them to DW staff/authorities.)

Again, I apologize, and will be working to unscreen comments as fast as possible, but I'm only one person.

(Vasemod has had some personal issues come up, so I am the only mod atm. Please bear with me until this bit of annoyance has passed.)

weevil and co

(Anonymous) 2023-09-27 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
So Weevil and a few of his friends (at least three of them, Vynne, EternallySacred and TheUltimateOwl) have been banned for targeted harassment of a user related to the purchase of a dragon by Weevil's own admission. Does anyone have any details? Weevil was very actively telling everyone how confusing it was and how he's never done anything like that, but got a response from the mods that (his words) listed everything he'd done that fit that behaviour and he's suddenly resigned to starting a new account without bothering about the old one for a supposedly wrongful ban. Does anyone have details? I don't know any of them and don't know what they might have done, but seeing them all work people up about potentially getting banned "for nothing" is getting annoying.

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ya it's always wow its so weird i got banned :( how could this happen? i have done nothing wrong? :( until staff pulls out the receipts

if weevil admitted to buying the dragons why is he surprised?????? oh no my actions have consequences

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
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Wydm "oh my actions have consequences" the action was. buying dragons. If you look at any message from any of these ppl you'll see that nobody was trying to evade any blocks, dragons get sold and resold. they get passed around between friends. wack as hell to pretend that the group was actively evading bans and staff is right here.
a very rich whale accuses a person of block evading and 4 accounts get closed. idk if I were yall I'd be thinking critically about why the fuck that is!! and take it more seriously because if one report is all it takes to get a friend group banned, we must all be fucked.
especially considering Alyxsandre has a long history of vagueing and being shady as hell. and generally being gross
(not one of the banned players but ive spoken to them and seen evidence. this sets a frankly disturbing precedent - that ANYONE can get banned if they happen to obtain a dragon that, at one point, belonged to somebody who had blocked them, even if they didn't know (as several people in this situation didn't)

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt I would be very interested to see the other side of the story here.

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The interpretation you're giving is based on everything these people are saying being 100% true, which I really, really doubt. It only takes a little critical thinking to go "hm, there's something else here" - including, for example, why Vynne was sent one of the dragons involved as an intermediary for reasons even Vynne supposedly doesn't know.

Alyxsandre does not have any type of influence over the moderation team that leads to a bunch of high spenders getting banned for nothing. A moderation team that's slow at best and outright negligent at worst when it comes to performing actual moderation actions for people being actively malicious on the site (see the recent homophobe debacle), which is why this stands out so much. Does the critical thinking you're talking about not come with considering those things as well?

The biggest conspiracy I can see here is the assumption of guilt on part of one person who seems to genuinely not have known what's going on, but Weevil hasn't done a good job of painting a picture of his own innocence even with the information he's just willingly shared. And he's not really done a good job of implying the innocence of anyone adjacent to it as a result.

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-27 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
it's interesting that weevil is now getting harassed via being signed up for spam emails. reminds me a bit of the situation from a few months ago....

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
The malicious email signups are going too far, but weevil absolutely deserved to get banned; it's pretty clear that they did what they were accused of. It is a bit strange that FR staff chose to take action on this particular user's block evading, rather than the thousands of times that other users have done the exact same thing, however.

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
can we get some screencaps

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Hyrultia is also trying to get in on this and is kicking up a storm acting like it's some moment of unity between falsely banned users. Everyone knows why you got banned. Stop pretending.

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
making money off of art is multiaccounting? lol

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for not including anything with the initial post.

Screenshot of Weevil's ban: https://archive.ph/5usdp
Weevil saying he was emailed by staff listing everything he'd done in response to his appeal: https://archive.ph/4kJkk
Discussion of the timeline of events: https://archive.ph/le5Il

If I need to include more detail let me know.

The timeline comes from an email Weevil received and shared in the group chat he made for the whole thing.

A few people that are friends with the people involved got mad at someone uninvolved for saying the rules against block evading were there for a reason which was funny. It's not directly implying guilt or anything, but it sure looks suspicious!

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
frrrrrrrr everyone's chatting so much shit, if you're all getting this info from an outside source like discord for the love of god, cap it. a lot of us don't bother with discord and have no idea what you're talking about

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-28 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Owl just got unbanned apparently. The plot thickens! If this really does turn out to be a spite report somehow getting four people banned I'll be amazed. And wondering if the mod team will make a statement about it, because if one person managed to get even one random person banned by association because of their own paranoia, it's a pretty terrible look!

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I wonder how many people got caught up in this because of Weevil having fun and meme-ing a dragon they got from Alyx. Alyx hates jokes and fun more than anyone I've seen.

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-29 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
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Why does one user being unbanned mean it was an unwarranted spite report?

My bet is Owl claimed ignorance in the appeal, and got let off with a slap on the wrist. Otherwise, they'd all be unbanned.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-02 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Vynne just got unbanned, but it seems incredibly unlikely to nigh impossible (according to them) that weevil will also be unbanned

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-02 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, per every telling I've seen, Vynne held the dragon for a few minutes. She didn't deserve a permaban.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
EternallySacred also unbanned! That's 3/4 of the bans. Wonder what they have on weevil that's so bad if he's very much not getting out of the ban (which it seems he is not)

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't weevil say something about already having made a new account? If so, that forfeits the appeal option.

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Weevil Returns

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Weevil's account was restored. I wonder if Alyx will get banned instead.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
PLEAS EPLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLE ASEPL EASEPL PELASEALPSPLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

my wife and dowry for alyx to be banned. my soul my life my love my everything my being my firstborn everything

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'm honestly absolutely confused by the thought of him being unbanned, but thank you for letting me know. I'm blocking all of them at this point. Because this is a level of idiot circus I don't want to deal with.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
The plot really does thicken! Supposedly it was all a result of miscommunication... I really didn't anticipate this turn of events.

For all that Weevil and that lot are annoying, it would be incredibly funny to see Alyxsandre face repercussions for this. But from what others have said it seems it was resolved truly amicably so that's unlikely. Shame.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, seriously, Weevil and crew, if any of you see this: Next time, wait longer than a damn week to move the dragon.

The time I was considering doing this for a friend, neither party blocked the other, it was just they had a falling out and refused to talk. The one had a lair clean out with dragons gifted by the other, so I was getting them for them. If the user hadn't caught me and said it was fine, I was going to wait 3 months before passing them. Not 9 days.

(Please delete the entered too early version, mod)