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An important update:

Due to a specific person being a complete child, comments are going to be screened by default.

This is only temporary, and I apologize for the inconvenience- this is going to be a pain in the ass for me, too, but multiple people have come forward about fears of doxxing, and this is the only way to make sure any doxxing is contained.

(This basically will force the doxxer to make a DW account to post any doxxing attempts unscreened, and will let me more reliably report them to DW staff/authorities.)

Again, I apologize, and will be working to unscreen comments as fast as possible, but I'm only one person.

(Vasemod has had some personal issues come up, so I am the only mod atm. Please bear with me until this bit of annoyance has passed.)

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Wydm "oh my actions have consequences" the action was. buying dragons. If you look at any message from any of these ppl you'll see that nobody was trying to evade any blocks, dragons get sold and resold. they get passed around between friends. wack as hell to pretend that the group was actively evading bans and staff is right here.
a very rich whale accuses a person of block evading and 4 accounts get closed. idk if I were yall I'd be thinking critically about why the fuck that is!! and take it more seriously because if one report is all it takes to get a friend group banned, we must all be fucked.
especially considering Alyxsandre has a long history of vagueing and being shady as hell. and generally being gross
(not one of the banned players but ive spoken to them and seen evidence. this sets a frankly disturbing precedent - that ANYONE can get banned if they happen to obtain a dragon that, at one point, belonged to somebody who had blocked them, even if they didn't know (as several people in this situation didn't)

nayrt I would be very interested to see the other side of the story here.

The interpretation you're giving is based on everything these people are saying being 100% true, which I really, really doubt. It only takes a little critical thinking to go "hm, there's something else here" - including, for example, why Vynne was sent one of the dragons involved as an intermediary for reasons even Vynne supposedly doesn't know.

Alyxsandre does not have any type of influence over the moderation team that leads to a bunch of high spenders getting banned for nothing. A moderation team that's slow at best and outright negligent at worst when it comes to performing actual moderation actions for people being actively malicious on the site (see the recent homophobe debacle), which is why this stands out so much. Does the critical thinking you're talking about not come with considering those things as well?

The biggest conspiracy I can see here is the assumption of guilt on part of one person who seems to genuinely not have known what's going on, but Weevil hasn't done a good job of painting a picture of his own innocence even with the information he's just willingly shared. And he's not really done a good job of implying the innocence of anyone adjacent to it as a result.

There's got to be more to the story than what Weevil is telling us. There have been hundreds of cases of people block evading to get dragons and even do weird shit with them, but nothing ever happens to the people who do it AFAIK unless they do more on top of that. Doesn't make the action any less wrong, and it can be a gateway to far more destructive harassment, but staff don't seem to prioritize these cases.

Case in point I've had to report people buying dragons around my block. One of those times some asshole I never interacted with block evaded to buy one of my dragons, and used said dragon to make fun of me with a nasty name before exalting it. Staff never even read my harassment ticket. They closed it like a year later and nothing happened.

Because staff have never set this precedent with how they deal with this form of block evasion, in the decade the site has existed, I'm suspicious Weevil and co. did many more things to draw Alyxsandre's ire than what we've been shown so far. Could have been behind the scenes bullying in other ways for all we know.

Alyxsandre, the person who has a reputation for throwing the most passive aggression messages on Flight rising.... The same person who cannot make up their mind for selling a dragon and has given people shit over changing / scattering some dragons bought from them...

That Alyxsandre. Yeah. It sounds about right. They monitor ALL dragons that leave their lair. Gen 1 or not. They are extremely petty and without outing a friend who has a rough experience a while back I will just say I am not surprised by their behavior.

Just block them tbh. Easier on the appeals to show no engagement once the staff takes a gander at the report.

Tbh, this is the one time I can believe someone with no evidence, because as someone who's been personally harassed by Alyxandre I'm willing to believe that they would do this to others. Also, frankly, they're a fucking ass and I don't care if they were wronged.

What weevil did was definitely inappropriate and they should have at least gotten a warning for buying a dragon around the block. That way other people who got banned who probably didn't know what was going on didn't have to pay the ultimate price along with weevil.
But I'm trying to figure out why a person would interpret that action as severe emotional damage, and what exactly weevil did to make Alyxsandre so pissed in the past.
If the rumors are true that Alyxsandre also block evaded and has harassed people to doing specific things with dragons after they are bought, surely this situation will get them in trouble too, no?

alyx is just a pissbaby who thinks the world revolves around them. they stalk their sold g1s for months and years after the fact and are super pissy with random rules around their g2+ lineages (you're not allowed to give them primal, glowing, or faceted eyes? you're not allowed to meme them/make them funny? right.)
i agree that the logs *look* sus but tbh has staff ever heard of a warning. like. one player had the dragon for 2 minutes and was banned without being told why.
this whole "permaban no warning no buildup" situation sets a really scary precedent.

i would agree but has there ever been such a case of documented pettiness from site mods before? even the screenshot that weevil deigned to share mentioned extenuating circumstances... not that scary of a precedent if you ask me. there's a reason staff's email with the details hasn't been made public

You guys live in a fantasy world where you think people are just banned for nothing. It doesn’t set a scary precedent, it’s the same precedent as we’ve always had. People get banned, and it’s not a matter of public trial, and staff doesn’t make these issues public, so you only get one side of the story and decide to just believe what the people who were banned have to say. You’re creating this situation in your head. It’s make believe. We can’t and won’t ever know what actually happened.

Well, we have plenty of deets here straight from Discord and the banned, and only a blind dumbass would not understand the issue.

Don't send someone a pile of money to buy a dragon from someone who has you blocked, then have them gift it to a friend, then that friend to you. Especially when you know the other party would look and notice.

Right. Maybe it's petty of me but I want Weevil and Co. to be innocent because I do not like Alyxandre

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