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An important update:

Due to a specific person being a complete child, comments are going to be screened by default.

This is only temporary, and I apologize for the inconvenience- this is going to be a pain in the ass for me, too, but multiple people have come forward about fears of doxxing, and this is the only way to make sure any doxxing is contained.

(This basically will force the doxxer to make a DW account to post any doxxing attempts unscreened, and will let me more reliably report them to DW staff/authorities.)

Again, I apologize, and will be working to unscreen comments as fast as possible, but I'm only one person.

(Vasemod has had some personal issues come up, so I am the only mod atm. Please bear with me until this bit of annoyance has passed.)

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Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

i could've sworn said it was against the rules to do what alyx is doing here, isn't it site policy that once a dragon leaves your lair you have no right to dictate what happens to that dragon? im confused

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

I think you can have all the rules you want about a dragon you sell, but they cannot be enforced by the site.

So, basically, Alyx can have whatever rules she wants on the dragons she sells, but the minute she tries to enforce them, SHE will be the one in trouble.

However, blocking people doesn't fall under, as far as I know, the 'trying to enforce the rules' umbrella, so she is perfectly within her rights to block people who don't follow said rules.

So, unless there are instances of Alyx contacting other people and harassing them (and I think at this point there would be screens of said instances) what she is doing isn't technically against the rules, because she isn't trying to enforce those rules on the people who don't follow them. She is just blocking those people to prevent them from buying further dragons from her, which, again, is perfectly within her rights to do so.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

oh, i see. i think i got confused because people mentioned alyx being very controlling with what happens to their dragons after being sold by messaging people, then assumed the same happened here. thanks!

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I haven't heard of her messaging people, but I believe there is a fine line between a simple message and harassing people. I just thought that with the way people dislike Alyx, if she really was harassing people (as opposed to having the rules and blocking people) there would have been evidence in the form of screenshots.

However, I don't really pay attention to what happens in situations like this. I don't know Alyx, not sure I ever interacted with her, don't know Weevil (and again not sure I ever interacted with them or their friends), and I rarely buy dragons, so there may be a lot I am missing about this.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

The dragon ownership rule also states that it's not allowed to exploit that site policy to harass someone else so there's that.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I was thinking and that this block was some kind of reverse uno card Alyx was using to snub people who did as they pleased, TOS abiding speaking, with the dragons they bought from her. While there could have been more to this situation than Weevil admitted, I still feel like Alyx may have been abusing the block function to punish people she couldn't mess with otherwise regarding her BS rules. So that's why I especially frowned upon the threat of a permanent ban for Weevil and all those people involved. In many other situations that ban would have been justified.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, how is Alyx abusing the block system and those who block undercutters so they don't know the current LAH prices not?

If someone doesn't want to sell dragons to someone else, they don't have to. If they find people skirting their block to sell dragons to that person, they are allowed to block everyone involved.

I haven't seen the list of rules, but the few that I have heard of are ridiculous. However, I also don't see how Alyx is abusing the block function, unless she is blocking and unblocking to harass, then reblocking them so they can't reply to her.

There are a lot of ways that people can 'abuse' the block system by blocking people they don't like, but it isn't really abuse, because you can block for any reason, at any time.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

The dragon ownership policy is a hot mess of contradictions. You can't force folks to follow your rules, but if you regularly go to free to non exalt home threads for fodder, that's a violation.

And yea, you aren't supposed to weaponize the rules.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

I think that particular contradiction is with regards to a 'bad faith' rule.

IE, if you get free dragons from those threads and eventually exalt them, that is fine, because the staff can't say you didn't have the intention of keeping said dragons.

If you are getting those dragons under the pretense you will keep them, and immediately turn around and exalt, then you are acting in bad faith with regards to the thread.

Re: weevil and co

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't a contradiction. The throughline is "Don't be a shithead"