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[(Anonymous)]

and once again earth and their stupid fucking ratio carries them. good fucking luck if you guys ever lose that, you won't have a chance.

[(Anonymous)]

it was so close, i don't think this is attributable to ratio.

[(Anonymous)]

if you think this was "earth ratio" its just proof that light are sore losers and bad sports

[(Anonymous)]

i mean, it definitely helped? that's just sort of how it is with the math.
i'm nayrt or anything, though, and to be clear!! rn the attitude in light's discord is enthusiasm and eagerness for more opportunities thanks to how much fun so many people had with the last minute frenzy and all the board flips.

(i'm still sad to see anon below feeling down, but for my own part since this started as a profit push i had zero expectations at the outset of the week.)

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt, im cheering with those acolights - it was so much fun, everyone made so much money, and we got so many flips!!

[(Anonymous)]

(That anon—I'm just staring at a hibden slate of eight genes and the rest eggs, and since we had first for 5ish? days I thought I could plan for the discount... Ah, well, I'll get over it. Hopefully VaLights works out, or something after that, and I don't have to wait til Brightshine.

But also I'm just bad with spur of the moment competition. I need more time to get myself OK with the possibility of losing, so this was just stressful rather than fun.)

[(Anonymous)]

one person doesn't make a sore loser, besides they worked hard I think anyone would be disappointed if it was their flight. not agreeing that it was an earth ratio issue though, it could've gone either way.
anywho, apparently it was a small group of pebbles who spent THOUSANDS of gems for this bit which is hilarious.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt, fair enough. just tired of every time earth does anything it gets called earth abusing the ratio or unfair when there were a ton of flips and it was arguably about as evenly matched as you couldve hoped for. its not like earth shut out light!

[(Anonymous)]

what is evenly matched about one flight pushing the entire week from which they SHOULD HAVE had a standing advantage, opening a public buy, ordering mercs all week, and four people can decide in two days to totally cancel that out AND had earth been trying all week, it would've been flipless.

this was NOT evenly matched shut up, shut up, shut up. you people are so annoying learn how shit works.

[(Anonymous)]

light was profit pushing, not conquesting. and you opened a pb TWO HOURS FROM ROLLOVER. grow up, you sound like plague

[(Anonymous)]

You legit sound like a child omg maybe you should take a page from your own book and shut up

[(Anonymous)]

Earth being able to have a handful of loaded players come in and knock off another flight off a profit push on the last day doesn't bode well for their chances of anyone wanting to fight them. The ratios mattered here.

If rufusdrumsknott wanted to get Beastclans off the board, they could have sent more dragons to Wind (their previous flight). My sympathies to the Earth Dom team. This isn't a position they want to be in.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

The ratios matter, but ten years of a completely stagnant game meta matters too. I think it's pretty well established that Earth's main advantage is that everyone who cares about exalting moves to earth. Fire has less active players according to the new survey and they're not threatening anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

DA maybe now everyone will move to fire bc their dom scene is getting revamped and this won't be an issue anymore lol

[(Anonymous)]

do we have a source on this?

I assumed only dom teams had the contacts to order mercs and have a cute badge at the ready, so even if specific people were funding the purse itself that sounds to me a little more specific than "four random earth flight members."

also "thousands" like 5kg or "thousands" like 50kg, because there is a big difference when we are talking on the scale of funding dom!

i ask partially for curiosity reasons; partially because it hits different if it was in fact a couple earth wealthy randos and not earthdom itself likewise doing an "ok but what if we DID conquest push though—" thing at the eleventh hour.

[(Anonymous)]

Source is those users proudly claiming it in Dom Watch

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3389070/12#post_58246522

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3389070/12#post_58246543

[(Anonymous)]

anyone can order mercs and individuals frequently do, not only to support their flight during pushes but also for foddart, storing prelevels, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT I'm having issues with Wayback Machine rn. rufusdrumknott (who moved to Earth from Wind) said on the Dom Watch thread that they and three other people in Earth ordered mercs to flip Beastclans. They said they were out 50kg from the effort. However, they kept on going after they flipped Beastclans, which also made things harder for Wind to place 3rd.

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3389070/13#post_58246591

While I'm glad the participating flights mostly had a good time, I don't envy the spot that Earth Dom is in. This was a reckless decision and a hit to the good relations Earth has worked hard to maintain over the years.

[(Anonymous)]

I posted it downthread as well but I wanted to reiterate here. Anyone can order mercs. The vast majority of the earth community was in fact behind the levelling and exalting this push and were actively exalting on their own. It just wasn't officially called an Earthdom effort, because none of the leads had the time to come up with something official on the very last day.

As someone in earth: there were four users with deep pockets, but they were buying a lot of mercs FROM EARTH (and other flights, but mostly Earth and Fire). Light WAS pushing against Earth, but the incentive for those pebbles levelling and exalting was provided by four users with deep pockets instead of the official dom team itself.

Which is pretty much what an 'official' organized push looks like anyway, except replace the four rich users with the dom bank. It was pretty much an internal public buy with private citizen funds.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

it was earth's ratio. this comes up over and over again. it always boils down to earth has an unfair advantage that they're in denial of over this ratio and this has been reinforced by those four assholes revealing "Oh it was all us."

to all four of you, go fuck yourselves.

[(Anonymous)]

So either everyone starts shitting on the earthdom team, who had nothing to do with this, or "those four assholes" announce that this was independent of earthdom and you start shitting on them. That other anon was right, you're just a sore loser.

[(Anonymous)]

the vast majority of light had fun and aren't bitching about the fight; this isn't a repeat of the everlux behaviour where a very loud majority were angry and disappointed. the only 'sore losers' are the weird loose ends.

[(Anonymous)]

correction that even with the everlux behavior it wasn't a "majority," just an annoyingly large minority
though i appreciate your effort at the distinction regardless!!

ARR is normally a remarkably supportive place despite its reputation as a salt comm, so it's genuinely making me a bit sad to feel like we can't go thirty seconds into this conversation without someone looking to make either earth or light into a bad guy when the reality is that overall people had fun and loved doing this. no flight is a monolith when it comes to opinions, but genuinely this feels like something that should be proof to all of us that this kind of impromptu thing can be a lot of fun for everyone involved.

[(Anonymous)]

you're right, i typed the wrong word and i suck

there's always going to be sore losers and sore winners when it comes to any sort of competition involving large groups of people. no one can ever account for the actions and behaviours of 100% of the people 100% of the time, and no one ever LOVES to lose, buuut i think tensions are high among the folks who aren't good at handling winning or losing a spontaneous battle in an online environment that's become complacent on "if you announce it, you should be allowed to win it" with mechanics that have been somewhat polarizing within the community its whole existence. then negativity bias kicks in where people notice the negative far more than the positive, and remember it better.

makes it harder to notice that most of the folks had a blast. we should be paying attention to the success this event had so the community at large could innovate on it and make the next one better.