Hot take but I’m with Toxxitone here. I don’t appreciate the “those lesser than me” sentence, but other than that I honestly don’t think they did anything wrong. With huge numbers like that, I would have personally expected both of them to have some sort of IRL money component involved. There’s nothing wrong with buying gems for IRL money… or else it wouldn’t be an option.
For the record, I’m poor. Like, I’ve run out of food a couple times this year. But I’m an adult, and if I choose to buy something with my own money, I am allowed to make that choice. I know what I’m doing and I’ll back out if it becomes too much for me. Idk, it just seems super weird and disrespectful to suddenly accuse someone you don’t even know of being irresponsible with their own money just because you personally wouldn’t do it. Total overreaction imho.
Same. Like, if they can afford it, what's the problem? I don't see the problem. FR gets good money to aid with server costs and whatnot. Mentioning it was a bit weird but, I'm not gonna hold that against them. There are worse things to spend that kind of money on, and I really don't see the issue if it's disposable income and not needed for anything important.
Idk. I had some whiplash there seeing people actually supporting Strawberry. Like, I don't think the "ew gross why are you spending that money on a PNG" attitude was okay at all. It was poorly handled and they should have just kept that to themself. I get being unhappy that you won't get the dragon, but sheesh.
And honestly the auctioneer should have set some sort of AB if they really didn't want it to go over a certain amount. Sounds like there wasn't one.
"there are worse things to spend that kind of money on"
are there though? short of literally funding hate groups or actively getting scammed (which i'd hesitate to even put in the category of "choosing to spend money on an indulgence" in the first place), i am hard-pressed to think of a less-wise use of real money than this. hell, even shitty MLM merch has some potential resale value to let you recoup your losses. a dragon PNG you can't even do that much without getting yourself rightfully banned for RMT.
like, yes, this is their personal choice that they can probably(?) afford, and the moralizing from strawberry is uh… heavy-handed, but i just can't agree with your "worse ways to spend money" premise.
- Buying overpriced items on QVC or other shopping channels like a confused grandmother - General gambling - Investments in failed memecoins - Tradeable items in a dying Steam game - Tithes to a church you go to but don't even particularly like
In all seriousness I'm genuinely baffled that anyone could sincerely think one of the worst things one could spend money on is a petsite.
Then by your argument, no one better spend a significant amount of money on their hobbies again?
Someone who needs a fishing boat because they want to fish? Nope.
Someone who buys a horse, because they like riding? Nope.
Someone who buys art to hang in their house? Nope.
Can't spend money on it? Or is it different because 'they can be resold'?
Because, honestly that is ridiculous. No one better like fine dining, because that can't be resold and it can get very expensive for one meal that you might take a couple of hours to enjoy, at most, and then move on with your life.
Basically, any use of money outside of actual necessities can be considered 'less wise' because you might need that money at some point in the future. But, humans have realized that 'fun' is something that many people need, and there fore want to spend money on 'fun'. If Toxx finds it 'fun' to collect a certain dragon .png, then their money isn't being spent 'less wisely', It is just not being spent in a way that you agree with.
I was in fact specifically prioritizing physical items or items that accrue value. A more reasonable counter to my argument (which a couple other anons in fact pointed out) would be in comparison to other digital games, e.g. whaling in genshin or something—and yeah, in comparison to that, I definitely agree that it feels better to support a site like FR. I still personally think it's super unwise to spend money on FR to that degree, but I do personally financially support the site by buying gems from time to time, myself.
But, there are a great many other things that people spend money on, including lots of money at once, that don't accrue value, or are physical objects.
The meal I mentioned, some restaurants can charge, to me, ludicrous amounts for a single meal. I just did some quick googling, but there is a single food item (I presume) that goes for 25K USD. It is a taco. There is a chocolate pudding that is 10K more expensive.
The most expensive restaurant, according to google, is a 2.3K per person 20 course tasting menu.
Sure, you can find it strange, and as I said earlier, ludicrous, for people to spend their money in such ways, but it is their money, and if they have it, let them spend it on their hobbies.
I don't really see why it has to be in comparison to another video game, because the point is, the person is spending their money on their hobby.
While I don't agree with some of the predatory habits done by some of the other video games (gachas, FOMO, etc...), people spending money on those are still spending it on things they like to do. Whether it is healthy for them is not up to me to say, but rather the people around them.
So, yes, it may be unwise, but I agree with the person you were replying to that there are a great many worse things they could be doing with that money than spending it on a pet site they presumably love.
And Flight Rising would not be here for you to saltpost about if not for the people spending their money in, apparently, the second worst way after funding hate groups. Come on.
You did not just say Flight Rising is worse to spend money on than a predatory MLM lmfao.
Look I'm as grumpy as anyone about the Fathom F thing but at least I know the images weren't drawn by 10 year old Uyghurs in a sweatshop, and nobody is pretending a Luminous Halo will cure their Hashimoto's. I'm also FAIRLY sure Undel never drowned a child in a bathtub.
there are definitely worse things to spend your money on, like a banana taped to a wall for $6.2 million dollars lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian_(artwork)
or, in the $5k+ range:
5 $950 Valentino Polo shirts: https://www.valentino.com/en-us/product-cotton-piqu%C3%A9-polo-shirt-with-topstitched-v-detail-VMH03C9WP_598
2 sets of $2,500 Prada ping pong paddles: https://www.prada.com/us/en/p/ping-pong-paddles/2XD032_2DYP_F0002
1 $7,500 Gucci pet bed: https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/decor-lifestyle/gucci-pet-collection/pet-homeware-/pet-beds/herbarium-pet-bed-p-697322ZAJF96209
1 $4,925 Versace Tic Tac Toe set: https://www.versace.com/us/en/home-lifestyle/lifestyle/board-games/medusa-tic-tac-toe-set-print/1012903-1A08851_2EF10.html
anyway my point is there are plenty of absurdly/unnecessarily expensive things to blow $5k+ on, that i personally would judge someone for in the same way that Strawberry judged Tox, but it's not my business to tell someone else what to buy 99% of the time. so fucking what if it's pixels. it's not an NFT so it's not tied to ecological damage or a fucking grift. Tox is not being sold a dream about the value of this dragon, they are offering the value they have for the dragon. let people enjoy harmless things.
and sure, you could argue that all the above listed items could have some resale value-- and so could a special ID dragon. maybe not in IRL money, but in-game it would have value. it has value in it's specific niche market, in the same way that a fucking Versace tic tac toe set has value to it's niche market, and fuckall value to anyone else.
These are the kinds of things that a Kardashian or Jenner would flash in an instagram post. OMG, what if Toxx is one of the Karjenner clan? That would be insanely funny.
I get what you mean. I didn't like Strawberry's attitude in the thread, but I'm with them that I would (also) be personally uncomfortable bidding against someone who I knew was spending real money (and potentially a lot of it)... but I think that's the point where I would just, y'know, bow out and not say anything about it. Neither feeling uncomfortable or spending the money are immoral! It's the behavior / interaction that makes both a bit yeesh.
Yep, Toxx's statement could have been better (but honestly, do we even know if English is Toxx's first language, it could simply be a language issue), but, how other people spend their money isn't my concern. I have too much on my own plate to be concerned about that I don't have anything left over to worry about other people.
Especially when nothing I do *will* affect the other person. I tell them 'you shouldn't spend more than you can afford!' and either they will ignore me and spend more than they can afford, or they already can afford it and will just ignore me. So, what exactly has come of it, other than it looking like I am jealous that they can spend that amount of money on something I want but can't afford? (which is honestly how it comes across to me here)
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(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-06 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)For the record, I’m poor. Like, I’ve run out of food a couple times this year. But I’m an adult, and if I choose to buy something with my own money, I am allowed to make that choice. I know what I’m doing and I’ll back out if it becomes too much for me. Idk, it just seems super weird and disrespectful to suddenly accuse someone you don’t even know of being irresponsible with their own money just because you personally wouldn’t do it. Total overreaction imho.
(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)Idk. I had some whiplash there seeing people actually supporting Strawberry. Like, I don't think the "ew gross why are you spending that money on a PNG" attitude was okay at all. It was poorly handled and they should have just kept that to themself. I get being unhappy that you won't get the dragon, but sheesh.
And honestly the auctioneer should have set some sort of AB if they really didn't want it to go over a certain amount. Sounds like there wasn't one.
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(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)are there though? short of literally funding hate groups or actively getting scammed (which i'd hesitate to even put in the category of "choosing to spend money on an indulgence" in the first place), i am hard-pressed to think of a less-wise use of real money than this. hell, even shitty MLM merch has some potential resale value to let you recoup your losses. a dragon PNG you can't even do that much without getting yourself rightfully banned for RMT.
like, yes, this is their personal choice that they can probably(?) afford, and the moralizing from strawberry is uh… heavy-handed, but i just can't agree with your "worse ways to spend money" premise.
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(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)- General gambling
- Investments in failed memecoins
- Tradeable items in a dying Steam game
- Tithes to a church you go to but don't even particularly like
In all seriousness I'm genuinely baffled that anyone could sincerely think one of the worst things one could spend money on is a petsite.
(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)Someone who needs a fishing boat because they want to fish? Nope.
Someone who buys a horse, because they like riding? Nope.
Someone who buys art to hang in their house? Nope.
Can't spend money on it? Or is it different because 'they can be resold'?
Because, honestly that is ridiculous. No one better like fine dining, because that can't be resold and it can get very expensive for one meal that you might take a couple of hours to enjoy, at most, and then move on with your life.
Basically, any use of money outside of actual necessities can be considered 'less wise' because you might need that money at some point in the future. But, humans have realized that 'fun' is something that many people need, and there fore want to spend money on 'fun'. If Toxx finds it 'fun' to collect a certain dragon .png, then their money isn't being spent 'less wisely', It is just not being spent in a way that you agree with.
(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)I was in fact specifically prioritizing physical items or items that accrue value.
A more reasonable counter to my argument (which a couple other anons in fact pointed out) would be in comparison to other digital games, e.g. whaling in genshin or something—and yeah, in comparison to that, I definitely agree that it feels better to support a site like FR. I still personally think it's super unwise to spend money on FR to that degree, but I do personally financially support the site by buying gems from time to time, myself.
(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-08 02:53 am (UTC)(link)The meal I mentioned, some restaurants can charge, to me, ludicrous amounts for a single meal. I just did some quick googling, but there is a single food item (I presume) that goes for 25K USD. It is a taco. There is a chocolate pudding that is 10K more expensive.
The most expensive restaurant, according to google, is a 2.3K per person 20 course tasting menu.
Sure, you can find it strange, and as I said earlier, ludicrous, for people to spend their money in such ways, but it is their money, and if they have it, let them spend it on their hobbies.
I don't really see why it has to be in comparison to another video game, because the point is, the person is spending their money on their hobby.
While I don't agree with some of the predatory habits done by some of the other video games (gachas, FOMO, etc...), people spending money on those are still spending it on things they like to do. Whether it is healthy for them is not up to me to say, but rather the people around them.
So, yes, it may be unwise, but I agree with the person you were replying to that there are a great many worse things they could be doing with that money than spending it on a pet site they presumably love.
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(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)Look I'm as grumpy as anyone about the Fathom F thing but at least I know the images weren't drawn by 10 year old Uyghurs in a sweatshop, and nobody is pretending a Luminous Halo will cure their Hashimoto's. I'm also FAIRLY sure Undel never drowned a child in a bathtub.
(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-08 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-08 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-08 02:55 am (UTC)(link)there are definitely worse things to spend your money on, like a banana taped to a wall for $6.2 million dollars lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian_(artwork)
or, in the $5k+ range:
5 $950 Valentino Polo shirts: https://www.valentino.com/en-us/product-cotton-piqu%C3%A9-polo-shirt-with-topstitched-v-detail-VMH03C9WP_598
2 sets of $2,500 Prada ping pong paddles: https://www.prada.com/us/en/p/ping-pong-paddles/2XD032_2DYP_F0002
1 $7,500 Gucci pet bed: https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/decor-lifestyle/gucci-pet-collection/pet-homeware-/pet-beds/herbarium-pet-bed-p-697322ZAJF96209
1 $8,400 Hermes storage basket: https://www.hermes.com/us/en/product/chromatic-storage-basket-H419002Mv01/
1 $5,200 Bottega Veneta basket: https://www.bottegaveneta.com/en-us/intreccio-foulard-nest-basket-raintree-819855V4JR03054.html?dwvar_819855V4JR03054_color=3054
2 $2,500 Bottega Veneta "banana trays": https://www.bottegaveneta.com/en-us/wide-banana-tray-sherbert-raintree-819641V3VE07145.html
1 $4,300 Bottega Veneta trash can: https://www.bottegaveneta.com/en-us/paper-basket-barolo-742917V2MZ12200.html?dwvar_742917V2MZ12200_color=2200
1 $4,925 Versace Tic Tac Toe set: https://www.versace.com/us/en/home-lifestyle/lifestyle/board-games/medusa-tic-tac-toe-set-print/1012903-1A08851_2EF10.html
anyway my point is there are plenty of absurdly/unnecessarily expensive things to blow $5k+ on, that i personally would judge someone for in the same way that Strawberry judged Tox, but it's not my business to tell someone else what to buy 99% of the time. so fucking what if it's pixels. it's not an NFT so it's not tied to ecological damage or a fucking grift. Tox is not being sold a dream about the value of this dragon, they are offering the value they have for the dragon. let people enjoy harmless things.
and sure, you could argue that all the above listed items could have some resale value-- and so could a special ID dragon. maybe not in IRL money, but in-game it would have value. it has value in it's specific niche market, in the same way that a fucking Versace tic tac toe set has value to it's niche market, and fuckall value to anyone else.
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(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: 100x777 argument
(Anonymous) 2025-01-07 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)Especially when nothing I do *will* affect the other person. I tell them 'you shouldn't spend more than you can afford!' and either they will ignore me and spend more than they can afford, or they already can afford it and will just ignore me. So, what exactly has come of it, other than it looking like I am jealous that they can spend that amount of money on something I want but can't afford? (which is honestly how it comes across to me here)