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i know that AC has a history of being really whiny, but i got super worried about them because almost every dragon they have has some form of "sorry" or "useless" in their bios. i grabbed a few screenshots but could someone archive their lair?

I archived the lair, here are the links in no particular order:
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103024/https://www1.flightrising.com/lair/664389
https://web.archive.org/web/20240725110023/https://www1.flightrising.com/den/664389 (somehow wayback keeps showing the old snapshot maybe it fixes itself with time)
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103851/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/84204622
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103346/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94675376
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103131/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95139013
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103512/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95548422
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103122/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94073046
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725104114/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86458390
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103049/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94753596
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103006/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95603918
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103122/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94073046
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103017/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95039918
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725103006/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95603918
http://web.archive.org/web/20240725104255/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94675377

They pulled that exact shit the last month as you can see here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/664389

On june 17, 18, 19, they changed their profile NUMEROUS times and then changed everything back and acted like nothing happened.

Also nonny please do not feel sorry for them. They pull this "woe is me" shit all the time to garner sympathy and they do nothing more than spread toxicity and claim everyone is a transphobe or ableist when someone disagrees with them on something. Or when they ask all the time for kindness when they are the most unkind person I have ever witnessed. They claim that people make shit up about them when everything is clearly documented with archived pages which can not be tampered with. Also they had for literal years their 15k hate manifesto up that was just lies and slander. How do they think those people in the manifesto felt? But they do not think about other people, they clearly only think about them self.

They are a fucking hypocrite and everybody should know that.

Crazy behavior to archive their whole lair. They might be unkind but I don’t know if that warrants all of this.

ayrt

Other nonny asked someone to archive it and so I did it for them? The other archive link of their profile I just pulled from the archive site so someone else did that work.

Calling someone crazy for archiving things is a bit uncalled for? Since we are supposed to post deets on this community and not post baseless shit like on the other drama blogs.

ayrt

I didn’t see that.

I understand that people value evidence here, but really it’s just all edgy dragon names. If AC does want attention like everyone says they do, then isn’t the solution to not give them any?

DA

yeah i'm sorry guys but watching this thread i'm just like, why do you all care so much? they're not antagonizing anyone, just vagueposting and being miserable. just block them and move on, it feels like *we're* the obsessed ones now

Yeah, that’s my point. It really feels like AC is either a teen or young adult who throws around buzzwords to people who they don’t like, but they’re not really someone dangerous or actually doing anything that deserves this weird level of obsession and borderline harassment.

It’s also kinda weird to say that they don’t deserve sympathy when, again, they’re still a human person and probably a teen or young adult. Just leave them alone.

DA, I am pretty certain that AC is in their thirties or older so not just some immature kid being stupid on the internet. You probably just haven't read their weird long rant about FR and everyone being ableist

Here take a look lol:
https://archive.ph/5xm07

Does that matter though? No one is saying they’re making objectively good choices but they’re also obviously struggling. The rant is weird and long but surely the best result is to just not engage.

Archiving the whole lair in context of someone saying that they’re tired of being on drama sites is a bit much.

NAYRT

I think it's important to archive at least some of this, so that people don't waste their time worrying about someone who, while troubled, is obviously doing this to manipulate opinion of them and play at being a victim of some targeted hate campaign. It's not a hate campaign to point out they're toxic and hypocritical. It's not unwarranted to keep proof of that around either.

There's a difference between struggling and genuinely asking for help and just crying online for attention and sympathy. Everyone has their struggles and I rarely see people act in the way that AC does. Ofc people react to things differently but when you admit your behavior is wrong like AC has but then continue to behave that way even though you have said you've changed? There is a problem there.

I'm not saying the archiving of the whole lair is appropriate, that definitely is a bit much but I don't think ignoring and condoning their terrible behavior is right either. People deserve to be called out for being a shit person, that's the only way some people see the error of their ways and work towards change. Maybe someday AC will genuinely change but as of recently I don't believe that's the case.

Forgot to say this is AYRT ^^'

AYRT

You can be actually struggling and also cry online for sympathy, those are not mutually exclusive options. IDK about being a shit person either. The behind-the-back complaining about the Emperorz was the worst of it IMO, and yeah, that’s immature and rude, but the solution to that is for the Emperors runners to politely and privately call them out on it.

There’s a difference between calling someone out on a bad behaviour and pointing at someone and saying “look a this dysfunctional person, they suck” and only one of those is actually helpful.

AYRT, Honestly I'm not going to keep arguing about this after this post because AC and this whole thing isn't worth more of my time but just know that I disagree with you about them. I never said those are mutually exclusive options but imo AC is only one of them. If you think the Emperorz is the worst of their behavior then you clearly don't know much about them and should look into their behavior before coming to a conclusion.

I am calling out their bad behavior, you /gen can be dysfunctional and that doesn't excuse your actions, that's just how the world works. Just because someone is going through something doesn't excuse them being a bad person. Everyone, including myself, have their own issues that they just don't talk about. I think it's only right to inform AC that their actions reflect on their character poorly and they don't appear to have changed much at all.

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NAYRT

Not really relevant to anything going on here, but seeing them call Seboo22 a victim in that first screenshot is hilarious because Seboo22 was banned for being a straight up homophobe. Like, maybe they didn't know about that, but posting that as some sort of proof that staff are evil villains out to ruin everyone's fun or whatever is so funny.

I'm pretty sure AC is like 36 or something.

I agree this is pretty weird and obsessive. Only thing that deserves documenting is when they cause trouble for other people directly.

I would have been worried initially as well as I've never been super interested in keeping up with astral drama thus I'm not always aware of their repeated behaviours but even as just a casual onlooker, this is just strange. Surely they have a private chat with their sister and partner, I genuinely fail to see why they would want to communicate their issues in textwalls through FR profile comments of all things unless the purpose is for strangers to see it and feel bad? Not even gonna use PMs, literally just comments which is notoriously like the worst way to talk to someone on this site? And, wiping your bio and going around in your lair to purposefully edit tab names and dragon bios to say edgy things as well as setting the avatar to a blank space (going out if their way to use a marva cloak for it?) just reminds me of my teen angst, the sole purpose of that would also be for friends / strangers to see and feel bad. Ooo I changed my discord icon into an empty black PNG don't talk me I angy

I'm not saying any of this can't be a cry for help, it absolutely can, but I guess we already know with astral that it's not really in their interests to actually stop the flow of drama or distance themselves from it despite claiming to be so hurt by it. Everyone on FR knows that it's really not that hard to let the drama fizzle out and not reignite it. I've been a subject of some low tier drama on old anonrising several years ago but I didn't even know the site existed at that point so I was just going on with my life until I learned way later that it had even happened. This stuff is so inconsequential, everyone will move on if nothing new is fed to the pot

I gotta admit that the “ssrory i cant do thsi anymroe” on TwinFish’s page is really funny. That and the random interspersion of badge talk.

Ayrt

The actual whiplash of going in TwinFish's profile comments baffled me. Even if you disregard the fact that it's taking place in the profile comment section of a dragon website when like, discord exists, the long rant about how everyone is ableist and phobic and hateful of them (now deleted it seems https://imgur.com/a/1Fr8K6Q) followed by the cheery badge announcement just four days later, and then the crytyped "sorry I can't do this anymore" which I'm pretty sure has the text formatted to be slightly smaller, is just baffling to look at. I'd feel bad laughing but seriously it looks like it was deliberately set up to be comedic??

yeah shit like this just adds to my theory that is all for sympathy farming.

im almost positive that twinfish is AC's IRL, living together partner (based on what TF has posted on Twitter/Tumblr). so why the fuck would it be necessary to have this conversation over profile comments? oh yeah, so everyone else can see how persecuted and victimized they specifically are.

I have IRL friends who play on FR, but I sure af don't vent on their FR profile.... we talk about it IRL or privately.

This is just attention grabbing bs.

The formatting on the dramatic speech is what gets me personally, yeah there isn't much of it but I still find it silly that they went out of their way to apply bold, italics and underline to "day". A word that would have had the exact same effect without any styling in this context but they went for it anyway. Honestly if they were in the mind to decorate the text a bit, they should've done more. Idk if it looks weird that I'm focusing on this particular detail but I'm only doing that under the assumption that they want this stuff to be read and seen. Cause you know, if they didn't, they've got a jillion free private chat options and it'd be their fault entirely for not using them.

not that this particularly matters but it's also almost certainly against site rules. there's an entire section of the harassment rules titled ""trauma-dumping" and venting"

probably why it was deleted.