looks like gravna made reasonable offers to edit things but shamirr was just too mad to really consider anything other than a full refund. in the PMs shamirr more or less admits that they didnt provide a good explanation/refs for what they specifically wanted. i think gravna fucked up by not explicitly getting a sketch response from shamirr, but if i sent 2 pms to someone and they didnt respond for a week i might have done that as well.
making an artists beware post about this is really dramatic and unnecessary imo
Even as someone who's been on the other end of this and tends to skew toward the buyer in situations like these because of that bias, Gravna seems to have done what they can to try and remedy it while Shamirr seems unwilling to try and work with them.
Kinda amusing how a "beware this artist!" post kinda turns into a "beware this art buyer" instead.
Dakkokki: Can you post the evidence of tracing? Like, not just a link to the DA page but the images you were given? Because I can't seem to find the traced poses
Dakkokki here, I am not defending either person, I'm just curious about which ones were traced and I don't want to go through thousands of pose pictures lmao
Oh huh TIL Dakkokki is Twink_God#6136 and captain-chompers.
Isn't this the same wanker that was involved in a bullshit callout document calling someone irl abusive based on the logic that the person in question reminded them vaguely of their ex?
I swear, Dakkokki just needs to stay anon, because every time he fuckin opens his mouth on here, something else is dug up on his shitty/stupid behavior, or the thread devolves into dumb shit.
It's giving me flashbacks to dragondraws on the old AR.
funny that smr was getting a few asks published about this embarrassment yesterday but they're gone now, likely because dickhole here is one of those that likes to hold other peoples feet to the fire but can't handle the heat when it's on them
holy hell you're right, i saw at least 2 asks published (including one where the anon was wrong and said dakkokki was in water lol) but they're gone from SMR now.
absolutely spineless behavior from dakkokki. super eager to write an 80 page callout publicizing someones private mental health breakdowns, but the second they get any flak for art theft (that they admitted to doing!) it's too far.
Fun fact : SMR deletes posts on request by anyone, it doesn't just have to be the person the post is about. I don't really use the message system on Tumblr for anything, so I wasn't the one that messaged. Idk who did, but it was probably on my behalf.
have some proof of my most recent Tumblr messages - https://imgur.com/a/bkfx38F
I'm sorry that being reminded of my abusive exes made me connect dots together? Because idk about you, but all of the examples given are pretty textbook examples of abusive behavior?
There's a difference between silently blocking someone because they remind you an abusive ex and blatantly projecting on someone you don't know.
I mean this sincerely- if you're projecting your ex on random folks on the internet, especially over art exchange, you need to look into therapy, because you're still carrying that shit around.
Textbook abusive behavior like *checks wank thread* being annoying about kpop fandom. Damn ok wow that's terrible, definitely deserved to take up multiple pages and screenshots in an 80+ page callout doc
I don't even remember tbh, nor what server that even was. I haven't traced since like 2014 that I know of, but it was for a personal piece, but then again, my memory is dirt poor lmao. I've never traced for a commission, and I'd love to know what art they're talking about.
Oh those, those were all personal works that I never sold, plus I was like 18 then so a total dumbass. I don’t even have the original files anymore because I don’t want to be associated with any of those anymore. I can’t even print that skin if I wanted to because it is on my previous account.
Wow these are some pretty damning receipts of Dakkokki blatantly tracing someone else's lineart and publishing the results as their own work multiple times, wow. Gross. No wonder they're banned from that channel due to art theft. I would have given Dakkokki a bit of grace if they had been drawing over a photograph, even if the photo wasn't licensed for use in that way, but tracing over someone else's lineart is just straight up scummy.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-17 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)making an artists beware post about this is really dramatic and unnecessary imo
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-17 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)Even as someone who's been on the other end of this and tends to skew toward the buyer in situations like these because of that bias, Gravna seems to have done what they can to try and remedy it while Shamirr seems unwilling to try and work with them.
Kinda amusing how a "beware this artist!" post kinda turns into a "beware this art buyer" instead.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-18 03:40 am (UTC)(link)or is it standard for this kind of thing to not go super commented on, over at toyhouse?
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-18 08:02 am (UTC)(link)Dakkokki:
Can you post the evidence of tracing? Like, not just a link to the DA page but the images you were given? Because I can't seem to find the traced poses
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-20 07:32 am (UTC)(link)Oh huh TIL Dakkokki is Twink_God#6136 and captain-chompers.
Isn't this the same wanker that was involved in a bullshit callout document calling someone irl abusive based on the logic that the person in question reminded them vaguely of their ex?
https://imgur.com/a/rCb17xG
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-20 07:56 am (UTC)(link)It's giving me flashbacks to dragondraws on the old AR.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)really pathetic behavior
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)absolutely spineless behavior from dakkokki. super eager to write an 80 page callout publicizing someones private mental health breakdowns, but the second they get any flak for art theft (that they admitted to doing!) it's too far.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)Mind, I suspect they'd claim it's because they can find the name too easily here. But they don't stop comments from naming names.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)have some proof of my most recent Tumblr messages - https://imgur.com/a/bkfx38F
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-21 03:01 am (UTC)(link)I mean this sincerely- if you're projecting your ex on random folks on the internet, especially over art exchange, you need to look into therapy, because you're still carrying that shit around.
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