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AYRT, we can agree to disagree then. I don't think writing helps because a lot of the times people just delete it without reading anyways. The world building you are providing by writing it is lost then and it's very doubtable that they are going to go out of their way to read your lore to understand it and then write their own. They are just going to write their lore from scratch in my experience. Obviously there are going to be some exceptions to this and maybe writing can help in those times but in the grand scheme it feels like a waste of time. I myself have gotten a dragon with lore and deleted it without a second thought to write my own without reading it or the previous owner's overall lore. I just wrote that dragon into my clan lore and plenty of users do the same (whether it be "normal" like I consider mine or fucked up like some others)

I never said you (general) are a bad person because someone says or writes that you are. It's the fact they wrote that and it makes people uncomfortable reading it about themselves and their dragons/clan. Blocking them doesn't make it go away completely, others can still read and see that shit

AYRT We'll most certainly need to agree to disagree. I won't pretend imagine to understand what "normal" lore is. People like to write and read different kinds of stories - up to and including making a whole lair's worth of dragons into notorious villians, cultists, or any other messed up groups you can think of. This has been a part of the FR lore space since the site began.

Bad takes being out on the internet are a part of life. Is it fair to have some random person think a certain way about you because of what someone else wrote? No. But it's better to learn to deal with the brief, uncomfortable feelings that come with than grow resentful. And better yet to show your work (writing) in advance to alleviate those kind of misunderstandings.

AYRT, I just used "normal" to describe lore as a blanket term for lore obviously. That's a pretty subjective way to describe it so your version of normal may be different from mine, that's fine. I don't have a problem with writing evil or not morally upstanding characters into people's lore, that's not the problem we are talking about lol

You don't have to educate me on that either, I know that bad takes are always going to be on the internet. It's literally unavoidable. I'm just saying maybe it's not cool to fucking write the clan who specifically had that dragon before it was passed to the new owner is abusive and evil. I'm not resentful or anything, I'll just report those instances and be on my way. My only point in arguing any of this with you is to show the solutions aren't so easy as you are saying unless people just decide to avoid it entirely by not giving away or selling their dragons anymore.

AYRT Maybe my autistic ass is getting too old to give a shit about what a hypothetical person writes about "my clan". Maybe I have enough confidence in my writing ability that upon comparison, a reader could understand the difference between my writing and some unrelated, ow the edge backstory.

As much as I want to engage your argument - because it has merit - the crux of it is such a non issue to me as to be non-existent, even in a hypothetical.

AYRT, what? Since when is any of this about confidence in anyone deciphering what you wrote? Genuinely at this point you keep bringing in outside random tangents outside of the mainpoint and I'm sorta done talking about this lol

You genuinely are starting to sound like the people who write the fucked up lore about other people's clans

AYRT and I'm genuinely sorry to disappoint you. The whole point of my minor salt was about the people who whine and moan about those morons in the first place. In my experience, the people who do the whining also tend to be the same people who don't get around to writing their lore.

While I find the whining about the people who write the fucked up, specific lore about other people's dragons to generally come from self-defeatist attitudes, I think it's been made amply clear from other anons that I'm in the minority opinion. That's fine.

AYRT I personally don't give a fuck what anyone writes but I'm just saying you sound like that type :p maybe a Luvia has hit ARR, you should stop caring so much about this anon

nayrt

and our responses have been "your 'solutions' aren't solutions," not that we think that "the whining about the people who write the fucked up, specific lore about other people's dragons" doesn't "come from self-defeatist attitudes."

the REAL 'minority opinion' you have is that you're badly advising people on how to deal with a situation by suggesting ways that does nothing OR could worsen it, when all the situation calls for is to:

1. not sell/give away your dragons
2. ignore/block players you don't want to interact/buy your dragons
3. report if what they've done is rule-breaking

it takes less energy to do these three things than it does to do anything you suggested, and quite frankly is more ND friendly. you maintain total control over all your dragons if you don't sell/give them away, you maintain total control over who can interact with you or buy your dragons by blocking and if someone buys a dragon from you to give to a blocked user that's block evasion and reportable, and it's no longer your problem if you report to staff and let staff do their jobs to handle it for you. all of this results in less anxiety of things you own having things you don't like done to them, and lets staff handle situations for you so you don't have to talk to people doing things you don't like.

stop overcomplicating the whole situation.

any one in this thread smoke weed

AYRT don't smoke it but I'll be popping some eddies tonight because holy shit I need it

there's not enough weed or alcohol in my house to numb whatever the fuck OP has been on about

nayrt but you sound like somebody who needs more going on in their life if you have time to keep tabs on and make judgements about the lore of every dragon you sell.

begging all of you to go back to your smr echo chamber.

+100
Obsess over your own dragons rather those of other people.

AYRT lol nah man I just think this person screams Luvia energy and had to point it out, simple as that. Someone can write fucked up shit about my clan, idgaf

Anon you...think screams Luvia energy?? Is that the one who blocks everyone in existence for existing? If I look this guy up I'm not gonna find gore, am I?

AYRT that's the one but they also would write lore about other people's clans in their dragon's bios. Pretty sure all that shit got reported and is gone though lol

AYRT Huh. And it was worse than the usual "exalting bad" shtick from the site's old days, I gather? Now you've got me curious. I'll see if I can find a backup of the lore in question later today.

AYRT yeah from what I recall yeah it was pretty bad/weird. Something about their dragon named Father caring for them and taking them in from a terrible home and it was copy and pasted into like all their dragon's bios. In Father's bio itself it was something about not forcing anyone to breed if they don't want to etc. I will do some digging to see if I can find any archives of it because god it was kind sad but also funny to read tbh

I think actually most of the complaining about someone loring a sold dragon debates have started that way on some level. Then a whole bunch of folks dogpile them with how dare you check out what is done with that dragon, you are harassing them and breaking dragon ownership rules, etc.

When the whole thing really was "This awful thing being written about my clan without permission makes me uncomfortable."

And the reality is, most of them should just be reported to staff as a form of harassment. Or as inappropriate for the site.

AYRT If you have any luck finding an archived version of this, lmk. I've backread almost a full year's worth of SMR wanker threads and still can't find anything. Having a better idea of how long ago this happened would be helpful.

It's always the "go back to SMR" shit LMAO that'll show 'em, do it again

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