Plague anon from above. I'm guessing you're a newer face to FR. Go look at the 2014-2018 Dom Watch records. Impromptu pushes WERE the norm for many years. There was no point whining when they happened. We had to deal with what came our way, same as every other flight in the game.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I was replying to OP's statement of "that'd be pretty hypocritical if [Plague] don't give our orgs a heads up" by saying that Wind shouldn't expect one from Plague should we choose to challenge. I'm not whining that we weren't given a heads up; I've accepted that it is the norm and was simply telling OP that the reverse is true- if Plague doesn't need a heads up for a battle, neither does Wind.
I only brought up the recent double dom fight to emphasize that this norm seems to still be expected currently (since cultures change over time and it isn't too effective to point to 10 years ago and claim that that's what everyone currently expects of dom; most current players were not active in 2014-2018).
Key word there is were the norm. Were. Past tense. The impromptu battle from Water set Plague's bank into practically nothing. A normal, planned battle wouldn't have. It's not an overreaction to be upset about that, especially after such impromptu battles hadn't happened in 5 years.
If people were upset at Plague contesting all the time, had they ever thought of fucking bringing it up to the orgs? Of course not lmao. People would rather complain to themselves than communicate.
Water wouldn’t have sent Plague’s bank into nothing if Plague had been doing the normal grind of profit pushes instead of constantly conquesting. And given that there was consistently a mediocre raffle and no public buy, then yeah, it’s not surprising someone got tired of the nonstop meh dom. Plague always had the option of backing out and saying “we can’t afford this”.
IDC about the rest of your comment, you can feel however you want to feel about dragons sports, but the math on this doesn't add up. There's no way that competing with a rival PB for 1 and a half days instead of all 7 on a week where the entire site HASN'T been stuffing their dens full of dragons for months to sell at the last second is more expensive than a planned battle between the same flights. Not to mention entirely avoiding the cost of typical OOF raffle prizes for a planned battle.
Sure, Plague had their PB open for many days prior - but at reasonable prices. They decided to raise those prices. Show the receipts and dish on how much they spent on this compared to their last real battle if I'm wrong!!! But on paper, that makes no sense!!
change begets innovation that dom sorely needed. dom watch has had a note saying that no one is ever obligated to announce anything in advance for years. impromptu battles have always been on the table, it just happens that this was the first time in so long that a flight decided to inject some excitement back in the scene.
you guys are allowed to feel hurt and upset, but this post is a show of poor sportsmanship.
"If people were upset at Plague contesting all the time, had they ever thought of fucking bringing it up to the orgs? Of course not lmao."
IIRC Nature asked Plague to move their double dom in Dec 2023 so they could do their traditional week for Decorate the Behemoth, and Plague said no. So yes the orgs were consulted and they frankly got what they deserved later.
SA I checked DW archives and this seemed to not happen but it was a nature org specifically who told me this so idk what happened. if any nature people are around and could clarify that'd be great lol.
I was also nature at the time, and my understanding was that after the stress of the experimental pseudo-conquest in 2022 ("pseudo" since it was an attempt at conquesting purely off the back of the "normal" DtB activities, and only ended up working thanks to Earth playing nice), there was never a plan to make DtB 2023 an official conquest.
that being said...... I'd be very interested to hear if there was additional stuff that happened in the background which the wider flight wasn't made privvy to. e.g. I could definitely see the dom team wanting to find out if they could at least set us up to potentially take the lead, just without the pressure of making it official. that's the kind of thing that fits their style and philosophy.
AYRT that would make sense - maybe they felt plague out first and ended up not telling you guys. but what i don't get is that there's no plague conquests on that month at all so idk
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Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-09 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)Please
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-09 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)Not sure what happened to my last sentence, but please consider chilling out over a basic aspect of dom that's been around for years.
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 01:43 am (UTC)(link)Yeah, that's what I was saying. I was replying to OP's statement of "that'd be pretty hypocritical if [Plague] don't give our orgs a heads up" by saying that Wind shouldn't expect one from Plague should we choose to challenge. I'm not whining that we weren't given a heads up; I've accepted that it is the norm and was simply telling OP that the reverse is true- if Plague doesn't need a heads up for a battle, neither does Wind.
I only brought up the recent double dom fight to emphasize that this norm seems to still be expected currently (since cultures change over time and it isn't too effective to point to 10 years ago and claim that that's what everyone currently expects of dom; most current players were not active in 2014-2018).
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 05:40 am (UTC)(link)If people were upset at Plague contesting all the time, had they ever thought of fucking bringing it up to the orgs? Of course not lmao. People would rather complain to themselves than communicate.
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 07:03 am (UTC)(link)Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)IDC about the rest of your comment, you can feel however you want to feel about dragons sports, but the math on this doesn't add up. There's no way that competing with a rival PB for 1 and a half days instead of all 7 on a week where the entire site HASN'T been stuffing their dens full of dragons for months to sell at the last second is more expensive than a planned battle between the same flights. Not to mention entirely avoiding the cost of typical OOF raffle prizes for a planned battle.
Sure, Plague had their PB open for many days prior - but at reasonable prices. They decided to raise those prices. Show the receipts and dish on how much they spent on this compared to their last real battle if I'm wrong!!! But on paper, that makes no sense!!
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)be fr
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)you guys are allowed to feel hurt and upset, but this post is a show of poor sportsmanship.
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-11 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)IIRC Nature asked Plague to move their double dom in Dec 2023 so they could do their traditional week for Decorate the Behemoth, and Plague said no. So yes the orgs were consulted and they frankly got what they deserved later.
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-11 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-11 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)that being said......
I'd be very interested to hear if there was additional stuff that happened in the background which the wider flight wasn't made privvy to.
e.g. I could definitely see the dom team wanting to find out if they could at least set us up to potentially take the lead, just without the pressure of making it official. that's the kind of thing that fits their style and philosophy.
Re: Wind Double Dom
(Anonymous) 2024-07-11 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)