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Found while browsing g1 double hatchlings https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/708565

*Joined a few days ago and asked for guides, say they only have general knowledge

*Same day bid 30kg on an XXY obsidian, and express interest on a 2 letter imperial

*Hatched a bunch of eggs and priced the hatchlings decently with no price check thread or anything

*Chickensmoothie looks like it was a shell until very recently based on forum activity

wondering if these are burners for cross site scamming like staff described with the rule update?

Definitely looks like some kind of funneling alt or where rmt is going on. If there is nothing on the chicken smoothie account especially, consider it sus.

They’re now up to 60kg… I know this is gonna be an immensely unpopular opinion, but I really wish FR would put more limits on cross-site trading (or stop it altogether).

I feel like in the last year, there’s been a handful of users allegedly migrating immense amounts of currency from CS to FR, and every time it results in tons of drama and/or accounts being locked. It really doesn’t seem like there’s a great way to monitor this, despite some of the recent changes they’ve made

I'm starting to hold the same opinion because it's too easy for rule breakers to fake cross site trades or fib about them to skirt around TOS. A verification system for trades may be possible, but I would think that would be very taxing on staff resources and not worth their time, especially when monitoring frequent and small trades.
There's also the drawbacks that it causes for other, less popular sites. Take lorwolf for example, and how many players used their entire investment in that site for the purpose of cross site trading and flip selling. It ended up at least partially affecting the reputation and success of that game.

>It ended up at least partially affecting the reputation and success of that game.

no it did not lol

All of Lorwolf's issues are either caused or exasperated by their own failures and refusal to fix things.

I know a lot of people in this community and SMR disagree, but cross site trading has huge benefits for smaller games. It gets FR users who may have never heard of the game potentially into it, it stimulates the economy of the smaller game (if they actually have a good game loop/economy), and in general more people are playing the smaller game as a result. Also in many cases it's financially beneficial for FR.

I don't know how to solve for the shady people that take advantage. But I know a lot of FR users that were able to achieve FR dreams otherwise impossible or extremely difficult, because of cross site trading. Honestly I think a very large majority of cross site trades are genuine and not trying anything, it's just the shady ones are really obvious and stand out.

There’s definitely something positive about different pet sites creating cross-site interest, but a lot of the good this can do for either site’s economy is nullified when accounts moving around thousands of dollars worth of currency are frozen, removing said items/dragons/pets/etc. from said economies

I’m not really talking about players who move around 500 gems worth of things. Or even 5000 gems

Achieving a lofty goal via cross-site trading is great, but it’s painful to watch 100kg+ dragons and items get moved to an account that’s less than a week old, only for that account to be frozen and those assets be permanently removed from circulation, which drives up the prices for players who aren’t cheating

NAYRT

Yeah, I see people who dislike cross site trading, but honestly, I feel that it can benefit both sites. There are sites I started playing because I heard they were good for cross site trading, but then realized I liked the game and stayed for that game, not just trading purposes.

So, if a game is *good* then I doubt cross site traders (those who will only want to cross site trade, and not play the game for itself) affect it all that much, and it might even be positive, because those players need to generate the currency/items required to trade.

It is only if the game has problems or isn't considered fun by the majority that they have the issues with cross site trading.

Also, for the record, I started playing lorwolf, not for trading purposes, and yeah, it was interesting, but way too much of a grind and there were too many things that were time gated. It stopped being fun. So I quit.

So, lorwolf's problems are lorwolf's fault, not any other site.

Finally, cross site trading goes both ways. There are sites I play where people have realized that they can trade FR stuff for the other site's currency/items, so they play FR to do that.

i've always wondered how the CS economy works, i have an old (2008) acct but don't know what to sell for gems or what the market is. despite looking around a bit it just seems hard to get things sold, so seeing newbies with immense stacks of gems from cs is so suspect to me. who is buying ?

Just autobought a 100kg dragon. With an account days old.

Let's go back to registration windows tbh

the account they got most of the big cs pets from, teddy, is cross if that helps at all

similar behavior with ab'ing valuable greyscales...

99% certain this is cross.

- minimalist lair with only monochrome ‘permas’
- instant exalt ‘bad’ hatchlings from eggs
- sought after 2Ls before the devs banned his original account
- the cs thing op mentioned
- named his progen, Perses, after ‘himself’ —- his name is almost exact to that
- spending 100kg+ impulsively

more to see but these are too many coincidences. SUS. i blocked in case it gets weird. i do not trust

i just watched him hatch/exalt a ton of eggs in real time too. instantly listed any decent ones for reasonable prices, instantly exalted anything bad. i watched cross hatch eggs once before, same method.

Re: Wanker Thread

(Anonymous) - 2024-05-02 02:13 (UTC) - Expand

This is wiild. Definitely seems like him. But wasnt he ip banned?? I didnt think you could make another account after RMTing.
youd think he wouldnt be so obvious about it, or at least not... bring "buy xyx obs for 100kg" levels of drawing attention to himself. "I already have some general knowledge" about the game, my ass

Re: Wanker Thread

(Anonymous) - 2024-05-02 02:56 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2024-05-02 04:57 (UTC) - Expand

Yep sounds like another cross alt, block time!

bunch of those high ticket CS pets are now on another CS account, Yunjin https://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=866518

https://archive.is/ntRcK
https://archive.is/rEvfw

fr account https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/668158

given that all of a sudden the fritti tailchaser account closed down their thread and moved off those high ticket cs pets after the above was mentioned, i can't help but be suspicious

They're also friends with MiaShuji, so....

Watching this (and the rest of the entry) very carefully. Be safe, folks.

Is it risky to buy an AH dragon from an account like this? I see one that is really tempting in spite of it being a probable RMTer...

Probably won't, but I'm curious.

There's no way you could get in trouble if the FR staff can see your AH history purchase of it, if that's what you mean. The only way you could possibly get in trouble is if you tried to cross-site trade for it, or trade something that can't be documented in a CR or PA listing.

I doubt you'd get in any trouble for it, I'm sure tons of people buy AH items from sus accounts every day. Most of the reason why people don't want to buy from them is on principle, because it gives currency to a bad actor. But if the dragon is good, and you don't mind spending your gems, then you might as well get it while the getting is good.

I wouldn't (personally) because I don't wanna give that asshole any of my gems.

i swear to god, FR needs to ban cross-site trades with chicken smoothie already. it feels like every single cross-site trading issues from the past year has been directly tied to CS somehow

Seconding this… it seems like presently, either FR and/or CS staff just isn’t able to vet trades as thoroughly as needed