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Ils I can agree about, but didnt a whole gaggle of people get banned because Alyxsandre accused them of block evading?
Granted, from what I remember I have several of that group blocked because theyre fucking annoying LOL
Granted, from what I remember I have several of that group blocked because theyre fucking annoying LOL
pretty much this, yeah. light is organized as hell when it comes to plans, and they quite like money enough to back up their plans.
im in light and now that weve conquested, i can say that we were indeed hoarding and preparing for a battle. i think its good that wind has done the same - plague got complacent with their double doms, and its reminded all of us how no dom is ever guaranteed. youve gotta put the work in, either with grinding or with incentives for people to grind for you.
ayrt
and that's totally cool; i don't have any issues with how an artist chooses to run their shop. the only point i was trying to make was that comparing "real artist" hourly wages for something that could theoretically be printed endlessly isn't a fair comparison to make. that's the reason why umas are "most often sold at a hugely discounted price from what the artist's time and skill are really worth".
though, i'm curious: if making umas (~5 hours) is strictly for generating revenue netting you 5kg profit, but your sketches (~1 hour) net you $20... why do you bother with making umas if you don't feel properly compensated for it? /gen
and that's totally cool; i don't have any issues with how an artist chooses to run their shop. the only point i was trying to make was that comparing "real artist" hourly wages for something that could theoretically be printed endlessly isn't a fair comparison to make. that's the reason why umas are "most often sold at a hugely discounted price from what the artist's time and skill are really worth".
though, i'm curious: if making umas (~5 hours) is strictly for generating revenue netting you 5kg profit, but your sketches (~1 hour) net you $20... why do you bother with making umas if you don't feel properly compensated for it? /gen
Well, I mean, if you hand a guy the price of a dragon to buy it from a person that blocked you, and they pass it to a friend, who then passes it to you... That's block evading.
It wasn't worth the now lifted perma bans, but they weren't angels.
It wasn't worth the now lifted perma bans, but they weren't angels.
ayrt
imo, it is absolutely a money printer. it might not be a fast or reliable method for everyone, but once you put in the initial work of making the uma, there is no other work needed. it's just a matter of waiting until they sell, printing another round, and popping them on the auction house for passive income. that's why umas aren't priced at your usual artist's normal commission prices, and why the "i barely make minimum wage on my umas" isn't a fair comparison to make.
imo, it is absolutely a money printer. it might not be a fast or reliable method for everyone, but once you put in the initial work of making the uma, there is no other work needed. it's just a matter of waiting until they sell, printing another round, and popping them on the auction house for passive income. that's why umas aren't priced at your usual artist's normal commission prices, and why the "i barely make minimum wage on my umas" isn't a fair comparison to make.
OP of the thread here: would it be better to just search "l-uvia anonrerising" on google? or is there a search function on dreamwidth? i apologise if i sound stupid, navigating this site's a little difficult haha
lol good fuckin riddance for .... a week. Watch the xxy progrens; they're likely to roll again until they get a good one.
Is there like a writeup on this person anywhere I could be linked to? I hear about them constantly and bringing them up seems to be something of a touchy subject, but I want to know what exactly they did that makes them so infamous
I believe they did block evade and were behaving inappropriately. It's just that Alyxsandre overreacted and tried to go scorched earth on them or something.
NAYRT
Yes it is.
There's maybe, *maybe*, 15-20 artists out of a site population of well over five hundred thousand accounts I can think of that can reliably print off a run of skins and expect to fill them, and that includes people such as MythicalViper, 888, and Auroshen. Most artists on the site are in the boat of people who've been chiming in to say that they struggle to fill the initial runs, let alone the future runs. Future prints of skins aren't "infinite money", they're an extremely rare nice bonus.
Yes it is.
There's maybe, *maybe*, 15-20 artists out of a site population of well over five hundred thousand accounts I can think of that can reliably print off a run of skins and expect to fill them, and that includes people such as MythicalViper, 888, and Auroshen. Most artists on the site are in the boat of people who've been chiming in to say that they struggle to fill the initial runs, let alone the future runs. Future prints of skins aren't "infinite money", they're an extremely rare nice bonus.
Cross is known for doxxing people, and has done so on ARR, hence why the entries have had screened comments off and on. He's dealt in RMT, and is rich enough IRL to just throw money around... and doesn't care about other people, as evidenced by the fact that he doxxed someone who didn't even have contact with him... he just did it because he was a spiteful, petty shit.
In my experience, selling /limited/ skins earns more traffic, and thus more gems in the long run, than commissions. FOMO is a powerful thing /silly
I want something that makes especially good & narrowly-tailored use of an aspect of the dragon's basic appearance, incorporating something like multigaze or the petal/butterfly genes.
What do you want?
What do you want?
OP
is cross still on site, or is he gone for good? he sounds... terrible.
is cross still on site, or is he gone for good? he sounds... terrible.
Both his “main” accounts were banned, user “tryingtoohard” is highly, highly suspected to be his new alt (not banned but seems to be inactive now).
I will warn he is known to make multiple alts on Discord to bypass bans from G1 Hell + other large FR discords so be careful. Luckily his narcissistic ass doesn’t know how to be subtle so usually when he does pop up again, people can sort of figure it out by behaviour alone.
I will warn he is known to make multiple alts on Discord to bypass bans from G1 Hell + other large FR discords so be careful. Luckily his narcissistic ass doesn’t know how to be subtle so usually when he does pop up again, people can sort of figure it out by behaviour alone.
ayrt
perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree. imo, you are vastly underestimating the number of successful uma artists. and i imagine it would flip the entire ballgame of umas upside down if every artist was asking for their hourly wage for every run. no artist can guarantee that any run will sell well or how many runs they can expect, so i'm curious what the circumstances would be for one artist to charge hourly wage vs another who shouldn't.
perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree. imo, you are vastly underestimating the number of successful uma artists. and i imagine it would flip the entire ballgame of umas upside down if every artist was asking for their hourly wage for every run. no artist can guarantee that any run will sell well or how many runs they can expect, so i'm curious what the circumstances would be for one artist to charge hourly wage vs another who shouldn't.
DA
tbh i think this isn't going to lead to more spontaneous battles. who's going to challenge wind for double dom when they have a light sprite in the mix, or light with their stored prelevels? i'd be shocked if light and wind dom orgs and other experienced dom people genuinely thought that they'd still be challenged, and i would honestly consider it pretty disingenuous if they did, but of course i don't know what their thoughts are.
i don't know if even earth or water would feel up to challenging light with boarding or wind with light sprite so to me this just seems less like it's prepping for battle and more like a way to book up more dom weeks without being challenged. i'm just hoping this isn't the new norm - doing double dom, but with so much prep that it makes it unrealistic for anyone else to challenge you.
as someone who mainly played FR in the earlier years, i'm finding myself less interested in the game as the main thing i enjoyed about the game (spontaneous battles and more opportunity to try new things with them) is pretty much gone. the water/plague thing rekindled my interest and i'm just disappointed that it seems like that trend will not continue. oh well.
tbh i think this isn't going to lead to more spontaneous battles. who's going to challenge wind for double dom when they have a light sprite in the mix, or light with their stored prelevels? i'd be shocked if light and wind dom orgs and other experienced dom people genuinely thought that they'd still be challenged, and i would honestly consider it pretty disingenuous if they did, but of course i don't know what their thoughts are.
i don't know if even earth or water would feel up to challenging light with boarding or wind with light sprite so to me this just seems less like it's prepping for battle and more like a way to book up more dom weeks without being challenged. i'm just hoping this isn't the new norm - doing double dom, but with so much prep that it makes it unrealistic for anyone else to challenge you.
as someone who mainly played FR in the earlier years, i'm finding myself less interested in the game as the main thing i enjoyed about the game (spontaneous battles and more opportunity to try new things with them) is pretty much gone. the water/plague thing rekindled my interest and i'm just disappointed that it seems like that trend will not continue. oh well.
"If people were upset at Plague contesting all the time, had they ever thought of fucking bringing it up to the orgs? Of course not lmao."
IIRC Nature asked Plague to move their double dom in Dec 2023 so they could do their traditional week for Decorate the Behemoth, and Plague said no. So yes the orgs were consulted and they frankly got what they deserved later.
IIRC Nature asked Plague to move their double dom in Dec 2023 so they could do their traditional week for Decorate the Behemoth, and Plague said no. So yes the orgs were consulted and they frankly got what they deserved later.
"every other flight told Plague that unannounced challenges should be the norm"
where and when did this happen? my impression is that water's move was actually pretty unpopular.
where and when did this happen? my impression is that water's move was actually pretty unpopular.
SA I checked DW archives and this seemed to not happen but it was a nature org specifically who told me this so idk what happened. if any nature people are around and could clarify that'd be great lol.
I was also nature at the time, and my understanding was that after the stress of the experimental pseudo-conquest in 2022 ("pseudo" since it was an attempt at conquesting purely off the back of the "normal" DtB activities, and only ended up working thanks to Earth playing nice), there was never a plan to make DtB 2023 an official conquest.
that being said......
I'd be very interested to hear if there was additional stuff that happened in the background which the wider flight wasn't made privvy to.
e.g. I could definitely see the dom team wanting to find out if they could at least set us up to potentially take the lead, just without the pressure of making it official. that's the kind of thing that fits their style and philosophy.
that being said......
I'd be very interested to hear if there was additional stuff that happened in the background which the wider flight wasn't made privvy to.
e.g. I could definitely see the dom team wanting to find out if they could at least set us up to potentially take the lead, just without the pressure of making it official. that's the kind of thing that fits their style and philosophy.
AYRT that would make sense - maybe they felt plague out first and ended up not telling you guys. but what i don't get is that there's no plague conquests on that month at all so idk
I was in light and while we weren’t expecting any specific challenger, we were absolutely preparing for the possibility of one. That’s *why* we were preboarding/levelling, we were genuinely ready to throw down. It wasn’t a scare tactic, just the sort of prep that a flight would *do* when they’re expecting to have to fight for it. Same with wind; they’re not *assuming* that they’re going to get an uncontested double. If they were assuming that they wouldn’t have brought out the Light Sprite! In fairness, the sprite is probably going to give them an uncontested double but it’s not going to be cheap because they prepared anticipating a challenge (again, light sprite).
It’s not like every double dom is going to have a light sprite either. And as far as getting challenged - there were several flights that would have been very legitimate threats on week 2 for light.
I don’t know about double dom provoking more spontaneous battles, but the flights should still prepare as if they’ll get one. And if they don’t, then they shouldn’t be surprised if another flight nabs it.
It’s not like every double dom is going to have a light sprite either. And as far as getting challenged - there were several flights that would have been very legitimate threats on week 2 for light.
I don’t know about double dom provoking more spontaneous battles, but the flights should still prepare as if they’ll get one. And if they don’t, then they shouldn’t be surprised if another flight nabs it.
DA
I personally think we haven't given enough time to make conclusions on spontaneous battles. they are WAY riskier and require a lot of material and planning - you never know if a user can't keep their mouth shut and spoil the plans prematurely, and public opinion may still be sensitive about unearthing the concept again - so it'll need some time before people feel more confident about trying after so long of status quo being so mundane.
also, water's gambit was a perfect storm of conditions that put the wind at their backs: plague was hyper complacent, it had been so long since an unplanned fight, their org is so well kept together that they knew they could put up a fight with their stores, a FANTASTICALLY cute theme, and loud plague players showing terrible sportsmanship souring the opinion of supporting their double dom any further. yeah, water likely had pushback for breaking the boring standard, but all those other factors put things in their favour.
I personally think we haven't given enough time to make conclusions on spontaneous battles. they are WAY riskier and require a lot of material and planning - you never know if a user can't keep their mouth shut and spoil the plans prematurely, and public opinion may still be sensitive about unearthing the concept again - so it'll need some time before people feel more confident about trying after so long of status quo being so mundane.
also, water's gambit was a perfect storm of conditions that put the wind at their backs: plague was hyper complacent, it had been so long since an unplanned fight, their org is so well kept together that they knew they could put up a fight with their stores, a FANTASTICALLY cute theme, and loud plague players showing terrible sportsmanship souring the opinion of supporting their double dom any further. yeah, water likely had pushback for breaking the boring standard, but all those other factors put things in their favour.
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