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Unless I am mistaken all of the prizes we have listed on the OOF Raffle are locked up in Duchess account. I don't think any of the dom team has any of them at least not from what I've been led to think.
I didn't have dragons to send the first half of the week, so I missed all of this; however, my gripe is pretty consistent to Fire:
I don't know what particular security loophole y'all think you're fixing by not allowing people to copy attendants' usernames directly from the spreadsheet, but it makes pitching dragons to you vastly less tempting.
I don't know what particular security loophole y'all think you're fixing by not allowing people to copy attendants' usernames directly from the spreadsheet, but it makes pitching dragons to you vastly less tempting.
I basically wrote off the flaunt/flair gene pair for tundras as soon as I saw them and afterwards always thought it was because of the weird extra little sparkles added would look weird on fur?
But today I saw a flair scry that looked nice and thought huh... wonder if u could do something similar on a Tundra fluffyboye...
THE ANSWER IS FUCKING NO!!!! The gene artists rly went and gave them NOTHING on the wings. Where is the accent color!!!!!! The wings are a wasteland!!! I can only assume my brain forgot about this to protect myself??? So sad, OG fluffy dragons DENIED a good gene rep 😢 😞 😔 💔 💙 😪
But today I saw a flair scry that looked nice and thought huh... wonder if u could do something similar on a Tundra fluffyboye...
THE ANSWER IS FUCKING NO!!!! The gene artists rly went and gave them NOTHING on the wings. Where is the accent color!!!!!! The wings are a wasteland!!! I can only assume my brain forgot about this to protect myself??? So sad, OG fluffy dragons DENIED a good gene rep 😢 😞 😔 💔 💙 😪
Are there other breeds with such shitty gene implementations (any gene) that I should know about?
Not shitty genes, good genes which didn't get done well on a specific pose or breed or whatever
Not shitty genes, good genes which didn't get done well on a specific pose or breed or whatever
DA
I hope Duchess is ultimately all right, but it also sounds like it's high time for Fire to cut their losses. Just, stop sending Duchess any more Dom items or funds. If she's a halfway decent person, she'll still give back items and funds/let you use up what she's holding before you dip into the new stores. If she flounces or otherwise refuses to give it back, that's solid proof that you'll *still* be better off in the long run.
It's a kind of Sunk Cost Fallacy. She has the upper hand because you fear the items/funds will be lost otherwise. Strictly speaking, the Cost is not Sunk yet (except for those seemingly lost items, and possibly funds (who's keeping track of them?)), but it keeps the cycle going of her getting items/funds, that you don't want to lose, etc. She may not be doing it for nefarious reasons, but that's no reason to keep going. It's clearly not doing anything good for Fire.
I hope Duchess is ultimately all right, but it also sounds like it's high time for Fire to cut their losses. Just, stop sending Duchess any more Dom items or funds. If she's a halfway decent person, she'll still give back items and funds/let you use up what she's holding before you dip into the new stores. If she flounces or otherwise refuses to give it back, that's solid proof that you'll *still* be better off in the long run.
It's a kind of Sunk Cost Fallacy. She has the upper hand because you fear the items/funds will be lost otherwise. Strictly speaking, the Cost is not Sunk yet (except for those seemingly lost items, and possibly funds (who's keeping track of them?)), but it keeps the cycle going of her getting items/funds, that you don't want to lose, etc. She may not be doing it for nefarious reasons, but that's no reason to keep going. It's clearly not doing anything good for Fire.
+1. Was planning on chucking fodder to them too. Some of the attendants have usernames that need double/triple-checking for spelling that's harder to do on mobile.
its just sad that the AFF thread is more organized than the main raffle thread, lmao
PLEASE embers start your own bank and stop sending things to Duchess. It's gonna be rough starting over with no funds but you can do it. We believe in you. I'm sure even OOFers will send their support, I know I will. NOTN is just a few months away and it will help fill your coffers too.
DA
Love how everyone is jumping straight to dom mutiny without knowing the other half of the story. Not an ember, but I will agree that it does seem like Fire needs some reorganization. However, it's super easy to tell another flight what they need to do dom-wise, but a lot harder to implement than you think. I'm not sure how many of you have been on a dom team, but the dom culture in each flight is different. Sometimes it is very hard to find capable committed volunteers to run things. People often volunteer and then disappear when they realize how much work they actually have to put into running things. The volunteers that do stick need to be team players and get along with the rest of the members of the team. Which doesn't always happen. And it's a whole other thing to find trustworthy people to hold dom banks and valuable items. Add to that that Fire has lost their entire dom bank before, and I would guess that it's a little difficult for the dom lead to trust new people. (To be clear, I'm not saying that Fire doesn't need new leadership, I'm just saying that sometimes there's a lot more to it than you think.)
Love how everyone is jumping straight to dom mutiny without knowing the other half of the story. Not an ember, but I will agree that it does seem like Fire needs some reorganization. However, it's super easy to tell another flight what they need to do dom-wise, but a lot harder to implement than you think. I'm not sure how many of you have been on a dom team, but the dom culture in each flight is different. Sometimes it is very hard to find capable committed volunteers to run things. People often volunteer and then disappear when they realize how much work they actually have to put into running things. The volunteers that do stick need to be team players and get along with the rest of the members of the team. Which doesn't always happen. And it's a whole other thing to find trustworthy people to hold dom banks and valuable items. Add to that that Fire has lost their entire dom bank before, and I would guess that it's a little difficult for the dom lead to trust new people. (To be clear, I'm not saying that Fire doesn't need new leadership, I'm just saying that sometimes there's a lot more to it than you think.)
AYRT
I can only go by what's been said. If it isn't what it sounds like, I assume the people involved know and can shrug off any useless suggestions.
It seems likely that Duchess's absence right now is for RL reasons and not deliberate, and hopefully she's okay.
I can only go by what's been said. If it isn't what it sounds like, I assume the people involved know and can shrug off any useless suggestions.
It seems likely that Duchess's absence right now is for RL reasons and not deliberate, and hopefully she's okay.
Pretty sure they locked the copying after Fire shot themselves in the foot by trying to do shitty spreadsheet things during one of Fire v Shadow battles without fully locking down their own sheet. Every other flight somehow manage to secure that particular security problem without the 'copy protection'.
I have a reverse gripe: I usually love how secondary genes are drawn on f-skydancers, with the 'leather' wing being one color or pattern and the 'feather' wing being the other accent color or different pattern, and I am very very disappointed when I check other breeds and the differences are missing. Example: Bee, Eel, Flair, Noxtide, Toxin.
+1
im retired now, but i've been a dom leader in two different flights, and this situation is EASILY avoided. it's disappointing to see how disorganized fire seems to be as a whole. i'm hoping they learn from this and stop putting all their eggs in one unreliable basket
im retired now, but i've been a dom leader in two different flights, and this situation is EASILY avoided. it's disappointing to see how disorganized fire seems to be as a whole. i'm hoping they learn from this and stop putting all their eggs in one unreliable basket
Except Duchess claims IRL instances for everything she misses out on and she has missed out on a lot. She'll come back mid-week or a week or two later and claim some ailment. I *left* Fire because of that behavior. It will be some illness or accident that you can't call her out on because then it makes you look bad but it is ALWAYS something.
Didn't give overnight funds to someone and so people used personal funds instead of dom funds?
'I had to take care of my pet'
Didn't give out prizes or make a peep on a dom thread after a week?
'The stress of the dom push made me sick, I had to go to the hospital for ulcers'
It is every time and fire peeps just refused to listen. So there will be another excuse, people will rally behind her and send her gifts to hope she gets better and fire will move on with this train wreck. Just saying to all the other embers? It's completely different in other flights. Good luck.
Didn't give overnight funds to someone and so people used personal funds instead of dom funds?
'I had to take care of my pet'
Didn't give out prizes or make a peep on a dom thread after a week?
'The stress of the dom push made me sick, I had to go to the hospital for ulcers'
It is every time and fire peeps just refused to listen. So there will be another excuse, people will rally behind her and send her gifts to hope she gets better and fire will move on with this train wreck. Just saying to all the other embers? It's completely different in other flights. Good luck.
IIRC, tundra were one of the breeds fucked over by the bugged initial Flair/flaunt and the idiocy that was the vote after.
NAYRT that's totally fair but Duchess preventing positive change from occurring and otherwise hindering Fire Dom from improving has been a known problem for years. of course embers may not have the werewithal to mutiny which i obviously get but the alternative is the current situation proceeding unchanged. Fire has artists (their foddart offerings are impressive) and attendants, as well as new orgs like Pessi who want to change things and are chafing at the bit. there's a lot of potential for improvement.
i really care about the dom scene on FR and i legit feel for all the embers who love their flight and community but whose experience is not as good as it could be due to the actions of a single or small group of people. it's not fair, and it's also a bummer for the other flights because having another competitive team in the dom space would be great for everyone. we're stuck with 11 flights so if some of them aren't dom oriented there's fewer good matches for battles and fewer new ideas being generated.
i really care about the dom scene on FR and i legit feel for all the embers who love their flight and community but whose experience is not as good as it could be due to the actions of a single or small group of people. it's not fair, and it's also a bummer for the other flights because having another competitive team in the dom space would be great for everyone. we're stuck with 11 flights so if some of them aren't dom oriented there's fewer good matches for battles and fewer new ideas being generated.
no it's more recent than that (2020 i think was the last time you could copy?) cause the attendants record using a google form (which any ol' person could in theory submit to) and so they're doing this to hide the link to this form at all costs (yes there are other ways to do this)
form recording is widely used and isn't bad per say (it's good that people can submit data without needing a google account or spreadsheet skills) but oof raffles aren't the place for it imo.
form recording is widely used and isn't bad per say (it's good that people can submit data without needing a google account or spreadsheet skills) but oof raffles aren't the place for it imo.
what they wrote in their bio seems so sweet. i have no information to add (sadly), but +1 am very curious to hear if anyone else remembers the details.
Fire is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They might need to start over fresh and I am sure people will support them. Look at what embers are doing! Look at the 50/50 for example. Those prizes below the prize pot are amazing. I just really hope that host does not give generated funds to duchess but instead to pessi.
I am going to bet that duchess comes back end of the week and says I am so sorry guys I had a medical/environmental/personal emergency pop up and couldn't contact anyone to let them know what was up. Then write this whole woe is me thing again and make people feel so bad for doubting her. People will send her items out of guilt for thinking ppoorly.
I am going to bet that duchess comes back end of the week and says I am so sorry guys I had a medical/environmental/personal emergency pop up and couldn't contact anyone to let them know what was up. Then write this whole woe is me thing again and make people feel so bad for doubting her. People will send her items out of guilt for thinking ppoorly.
nayrt
its wild to me that the 50-50 raffle has better prizes than the OOF raffle and i would wager IF raffle as well
its wild to me that the 50-50 raffle has better prizes than the OOF raffle and i would wager IF raffle as well
nayrt bruh I'm literally not even in Fire but if a new dom team rose up I'd donate 10kg to their new bank. I want to see embers get a fresh start.
i remember something about imp scrolls being generated onto the site, so i did a quick google and this thread comes up: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2778985/2
as well as this tumblr post: https://flightless-rising.tumblr.com/post/655091064827461632/made-a-new-flight-rising-iceberg-and-also-wrote-an
in which the author writes, "Zeus is an XXX gold g1 permababy imperial that used to belong to user “happywing”.
Their account is now locked because Zeus was created with the use of a duplication glitch on an imperial breed change scroll, which is obviously not allowed (although I’ve heard some people say that the dragon was hacked in altogether). Before the account was locked, people speculated that Zeus was the most valuable dragon on the site, because an XXX g1 imperial is impossibly rare."
as well as this tumblr post: https://flightless-rising.tumblr.com/post/655091064827461632/made-a-new-flight-rising-iceberg-and-also-wrote-an
in which the author writes, "Zeus is an XXX gold g1 permababy imperial that used to belong to user “happywing”.
Their account is now locked because Zeus was created with the use of a duplication glitch on an imperial breed change scroll, which is obviously not allowed (although I’ve heard some people say that the dragon was hacked in altogether). Before the account was locked, people speculated that Zeus was the most valuable dragon on the site, because an XXX g1 imperial is impossibly rare."
It just sounds like she shouldn't be in Fire's dom team if she's running into so many issues that actively prevents her from doing her fucking job. Why are some embers enabling this? What exactly is she providing to the flight, other than her holding on to most if not all of the dom bank, that folks are letting her stay in power? Seems like it's better in the long run to just cut their losses and kick her out. Hopefully this time embers will learn NOT to put their entire bank on one person.
nayrt
It's exactly what you said - it's tough to boot someone when they hold all the resources. However, I agree that embers should just push for it. Their spreadsheets are formatted terribly, so its not like they'd be losing much there if they can't get access to the base sheets. It sounds like Duchess uses the vault for her own means anyway, so might as well start a new one, etc.
you have nothing to lose but your chains, embers
It's exactly what you said - it's tough to boot someone when they hold all the resources. However, I agree that embers should just push for it. Their spreadsheets are formatted terribly, so its not like they'd be losing much there if they can't get access to the base sheets. It sounds like Duchess uses the vault for her own means anyway, so might as well start a new one, etc.
you have nothing to lose but your chains, embers
AYRT
The mildly bored part of me that is also mildly evil is considering ways that I could find out the googleforms link. Another mildly bored part of me just imagined three ways that 'form recording' and 'copy usernames' could coexist in the same sheet. Perhaps in addition to the 'Duchess: yay or nay' drama Fire could just buy a sheetwizard's services to fix their sheets before their battle.
The mildly bored part of me that is also mildly evil is considering ways that I could find out the googleforms link. Another mildly bored part of me just imagined three ways that 'form recording' and 'copy usernames' could coexist in the same sheet. Perhaps in addition to the 'Duchess: yay or nay' drama Fire could just buy a sheetwizard's services to fix their sheets before their battle.
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