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It's TwisterScribbles #79960, I had to check cause I got their ass blocked for when they were gloating about how they sold a Light Sprite for the artifically jacked up price over at SMR last year. (it was 90kg at the time, still a jackass move.)

https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/79960

(For note I blocked and moved on and never looked back at their lair.)

Agreed! I don't mind some of the ancients, but I have no desire to own any because they look so.. boring without clothes to me (even with skins/accents).

Nyart

I love Light Flight because they get snippety and butthurt over the most menial, honestly constructive criticism over their legitimate mistakes and get so defensive over it. It's like someone standing next to an overreacting beehive and getting swarmed within seconds. You don't even have to try.

I once made a similar post to the suggestions forum and got absolutely torn apart by the regulars for it... except not for the reason I expected. "It would be too hard to code! Staff shouldn't waste their time and should focus on other things!" Dear random flight rising player, are you a flight rising coder? No? Then just say support/no support if you'd like this to be a thing or not! It's not your job to worry about the backend!

No fun allowed in the suggestions forum.

Yeah, this type of argument is pretty much what I wanted to avoid. Don't get me wrong, I know nothing beyond the very basics of coding myself, and maybe this type of function absolutely would be more complicated than other things on the site for reasons that haven't occurred to me. But if you have to proof-of-concept the code yourself in order to suggest anything, they'd require resumes. And what staff 'should' focus on varies in every single player's individual opinion. All we can do is offer them ancedata points.

(My post was inspired by a suggestion thread on letting ancients wear emperor's new clothes specifically - just as a joke - and checking that thread again, there is indeed a post with the exact slippery-slope pearl-clutching I mentioned. Oh no! If the coding is put in place, people might suggest it be used for other things! Horrors!)

https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3255704/1
https://web.archive.org/web/20230718053907/https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3255704

Most of the suggestions forum regulars are really fucking annoying like that. Their heads are far up their own asses.

da

for fucking real. one time one of my friends who plays FR (and isn't particularly online about it) said they wanted to make a suggestion post about adding a toggle that would make it so people couldn't exalt the dragons you hatch and i had to, politely, explain to them if they posted that people would descend on them like a pack of starving dogs

While obviously suggestion forum regulars are way to cruel, that is a really dumb idea.

Ayrt

lmao I can practically hear the regulars salivating at the thought of shutting your friend down as bitchy as possible

imo the very fact that your own definition of "very simple and easy to edit in place" apparel became increasingly expansive as you worked through your thoughts… demonstrates the core issue here.

even though lots of apparel is really simple (and I'd love stuff like auras and flowerfalls to help fill out the negative space around my ancients in a way skins/accents by definition can't!), the boundary between what is/isn't simple apparel turns out to be way blurrier than the boundary that is "no apparel, period"!

this is something that i think could conceivably be fun to revisit once every flight has an ancient, but along the way i'd much prefer that staff stick to their guns so that they can continue their current/chosen pace with releasing ancient breeds.

ALL THAT SAID, I have seen an iteration of this idea that proposes an entirely new category of (not-)apparel that is "foreground items," which stuff like flowerfalls would be categorized under and which would be allowed on ancients. a built-in division like that is something that i think could totally work long-term.

I stand corrected then, just be weary going forward about sucrose discussions then.

While the suggestion forum regulars can be total assholes and absolutely would have been, posting this would have shown that your friend has spent zero time reading FR's policies and tos. Which is something that everyone should do when they join. A good chunk of the suggestions that get piled on are either shitty ideas, have been posted a thousand times, or show a complete lack of understanding of the site's basic rules. I don't post in the suggestion forums because the regulars are a bunch of ravenous assholes, but I do read it often.

I think FR should add an extra step before you can make a post in the suggestion forums where you have to check off something like:

1. I have used search to make sure my idea hasn't already been posted.
2. I have looked over Flight Rising's policies and TOS to make sure that my idea doesn't violate site rules.
3. My account is older than three weeks (or a better number that I haven't thought of).
4. I understand that once a dragon leaves my lair it is no longer mine.

Not sure if that would actually cut down on bad ideas, but maybe it would make people think twice.

people would whine about #1 in particular and ok ok fair enough the search function isn't always intuitive to use in a way that is actually effective and also sometimes an idea is subtly but meaningfully different from earlier suggestions

but that other stuff + a "guide to making suggestions" that included a strong recommendation to browse to check for similar suggestions… PLEASE

+1. Would also help to make those people suggesting ideas relating to game mechanics actually think about the cons of their idea and how to mitigate it and/or why they think it isn't a big deal for others. Seriously, anything to make the ideas they're throwing out seem a little more well thought out.

As a lurker, the common bad ideas I've seen are in varying flavors of:
- I want more currency for way less effort, game balance be damned.
- Anything that makes it easier to contact(/harass) a specific user over a game action.
- Anything that tries to change someone elses' dragons because it affects ME.
etc.
I'm probably missing a lot of those bad ideas but they're almost always dogpiled every time by suggestions assholes that it's probably worth staff mentioning those commonly brought up suggestions. Doesn't help that those assholes posting their no-supports on those threads bump them up for more assholes to see.

yooo theyre HOW much!?

I just looked them up and they're indeed 125kG...holy moly

DA, but I'm a big supporter of foreground items. They're one of the things I really hope we get someday. We have a ton of apparel that are basically just copypasted (like flower falls, auras, etc.) that could easily be adapted (probably by making totally new-but-actually-the-same items, not actually converting the existing ones to it for logistics reasons).

If they were just one-off art pieces (not edited to fit different breeds), it would be a low-effort way to spruce up moderns AND ancients (and hopefully permababies) and be a nice compromise between people who want something extra for ancients while still reducing the associated work load of new breeds (ancient and modern).

Plus they could probably expand the type of items beyond just 'apparel'. If they wanted to add, say, a desk item, that would be odd as apparel - but totally reasonable as a foreground item (or something along those lines - I don't know how many people want to sit their dragon behind a desk lol). Lots of cool possibilities.

Also DA. Foreground or even simple background items would be amazing. Treasure/coin piles. Chests. Flower pots. Clouds. Flight themed environment pieces - snow drifts, crystal shards, broken pillars. Cauldrons, potion bottles, camp fires. Crates, piles of scrolls. Baskets of yarn balls with knitting needles. Coli foreground items - bamboo, bubbles, vines. There are so many directions they could go with it.

Apparently it's going independent again. They say they will move away from NFTs, make a mobile game, and fix the website.

https://www.pcgamer.com/neopets-goes-independent-cancels-nft-game-and-promises-new-era-free-from-corporate-baggage/

https://medium.com/@neopetsofficial/a-new-era-for-neopets-fdb5c9ac187e

Interesting.

"That team is part of a new company called World of Neopia, which is led by Dominic Law, the executive who was previously in charge of NetDragon's Neopets Metaverse NFT project: a Neopets NFT collection and an in-development blockchain game. According to the blog post, Law led the effort to rescue Neopets from the JumpStart shutdown, resulting in the buyout that allowed the old Neopets team at JumpStart and the Neopets Metaverse team at NetDragon "to combine forces and become an independent company" with Law as its CEO.

"Free from the corporate baggage that existed in the past, the newly united [Neopets team] has now been entrusted with the decision-making and overall brand strategy of Neopets, enabling them to work solely on the betterment of the entire Neopets game and community," reads the announcement.

"Transitioning away from" NFT game
Despite Law's previous role as the head of the Neopets NFT game— just a few months ago he said that Neopets has "all the right ingredients for Web3 gaming"— and the $4 million in funding Neopets received from crypto companies earlier this year, the now-independent studio says it's immediately "transitioning away from" the Neopets Metaverse NFT game. Instead, it'll reuse some of that game's assets in a new mobile game called World of Neopets, "a social life-simulation game in which you live your ideal Neopian life from the perspective of a Neopet.

Discount furry second life, ok. I guess that is what think of when I read the words "Neopet Metaverse".

Also lol at everyone that bought a neopets nft

The company adds that the existing Neopets Metaverse NFTs "are all still available on the open marketplace" and that it'll "continue to support the Web3 community that has embraced ownership of these collections," but doesn't indicate what that support will be aside from keeping a Discord server open.

Have a very merry get fucked

Theres actually another user who told me they do the same thing to keep making money from light sprites. I can't reveal their name cause they told me directly and I'd rather not have them coming after me lol, so believe me or not.

I am not a petty person. But I am praying for the day devs put the sprites in the JoxBox and that kind of player gets fucked.

Like, for what purpose. Trying to control the sprite market.

imo the very fact that your own definition of "very simple and easy to edit in place" apparel became increasingly expansive as you worked through your thoughts… demonstrates the core issue here.

I acknowledged exactly this.

Now, the argument here is usually the 'give a mouse a cookie' one. "If you let people have simple apparel on ancients, they'll clamor for more and more complex stuff! It'll never stop!"

And I'm still mystified why this is always seen as such a dreadful prospect. Pretty much any new release of any type inspires a round of "Hey, that's really cool! But you know what else would be really cool? ........" suggestions and discussion. Unless people are running to California with torches and pitchforks, where's the harm?

What I see as positive about the 'expansion' scenario is that the staff and artists can take it completely at their own pace behind the scenes. Maybe they take note of which sorts of things people seem to be asking for most (pets? emblems?) or maybe not. Yeah, there would always be 'But why isn't [X] ancient-friendly yet?' complaints. Just like there will always be 'Now that there are chickens, I want ducks to be available as apparel!'-type complaints. I think the site would survive it.

Permababies are definitely a good point (and could be handled the same way as ancients, eventually, with similar coding). Considering things like pets, the NotN book piles, and the new achievement shop treasure hoards that already exist as apparel, I wouldn't consider it particularly weird to have any of the things you describe classified as such either, but I'd love to see them somehow as well. (I think pretty much anything would need to be pose-adapted to some degree though.)

Ehhhh. Although I'm pretty old on the site and have had plenty of "Thank you for buying my dragon! You'll keep them and give them a loving home forever, won't you? :) " directed at me, and of course it's tiring, I'm not going to fire all torpedoes at someone who just stumbled across a pretty dragon dressup site and doesn't know how much they don't know. Of course people should read policies and TOS, but the world's full of fine print we 'should' read but it's pretty clearly universally understood that we won't.

I like the idea of a bot or similar that checks pending posts (particularly in the suggestions forum, and maybe just for users who have been on the site for less than [X] time and/or made fewer than [X] number of forum posts) for oft-repeated suggestions. Many help/question forums have similar features. It wouldn't take much keyword recognition to weed out 'bond with all familiars', 'relist all auctions', or basically anything containing 'exalt' and/or 'unnamed', and that would catch most of the biggest offenders.

Until then, there's really no gain to anyone jumping on people like this. If nobody replies (or only one person replies by copy-pasting a boilerplate non-judgmental explanation that you can copy-paste onto every similar post) it sinks off the front page in a day or so. Why waste your time when all you're accomplishing is bumping the annoying thread back to the top? It's not like the staff is going to implement them just because you let them pass by without comment.

NAYRT I feel like people take the "give a mouse a cookie" analogy way too far. Obviously there is a clear line between fitted and non-fitted apparel, I wouldn't see a flowerfall and expect hoods to be added. If players are asking for that, then they've really misunderstood the point of non-fitted apparel. (The beauty of this is staff can just not implement it, if they don't want to). And this doesn't mean that ALL non-fitted apparel has to be added, anyways. I would be happy even if they only added flowerfalls or the seasonal floaties truthfully. Anything to give ancients a little more spice.

"Give a mouse a cookie" is jumping a few steps ahead of the suggestion itself, which ultimately would be left up to staff to decide what they want to add to ancients. The logistics really aren't our problem, but that's always where people get tripped up about it.

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Neopets changed hands

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