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mindlessflight ([personal profile] mindlessflight) wrote in [community profile] anonrerising2023-01-27 02:32 pm

Hey.

Edit 2/1/2023: A new small guideline that has been added to the rules- please include direct links to profiles, especially if the user in question is being shady, since they go 'invisible' when FR locks/bans them.

(It's not mandatory, but it helps folks get those juicy details.)
 

Re: New Drama Blog In Need of Feedback

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
We feel it's important to not delete posts if the post contains legitimate information about something bad that someone had done. It would be incredibly two-faced of us to claim transparency but then go behind people's backs and silently remove posts. By the line, "it'd be a bit out of our control", we mean that we cannot control what certain people wish to do with the information they receive from our blog. By deleting the post, it wouldn't erase that information from their minds, and we don't think it would put a stop to them. We don't have control over those people. You have the control of whether they can interact with you or not, which is why we advised you to report and block the harassers.

We do accept the consequences of our rules, which includes the rules on transparency, meaning that we must adhere to it. We do accept that we have a role in giving that person attention, but the idea that we would be perpetuating the harassment by leaving the post up is not something we agree with.

In regards to why we think deleting the post would bring more attention, we are referring to what is colloquially known as the "Streisand Effect", by making more people aware of the situation from bringing up that it was deleted. Those curious would then look into it, and thus bring more attention to the person. By telling people that we deleted the post because it made the user uncomfortable/get harassed, it would tell those who were harassing them that whatever they were doing was working and effecting them, possibly encouraging them to continue since they'd then know they have that power.

We don't agree or condone with people who would send that kind of hate and toxicity, but again, we must advise that you block and report those people, as we cannot control them.

Re: New Drama Blog In Need of Feedback

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

"legitimate information about something bad"

ok, but is "something bad" something shitty but ultimately trivial like scamming, or an unfounded accusation of ableism or some such? or does it only mean actual crimes with proof like grooming?

"By deleting the post, it wouldn't erase that information from their minds"

well yeah, this is true, but wouldn't it stop new people from learning about the person? you do have control over whether new people have access to the information.

"We do accept that we have a role in giving that person attention, but the idea that we would be perpetuating the harassment by leaving the post up is not something we agree with."

this is contradictory. harassment is a form of attention. if you leave the post up, and a new person who reads the post sends hate, you did play a role in enabling the new person to learn about the user and potentially harass them. if you had deleted the post, then the new person would not have known about the user and would not have been able to harass them.

"making more people aware of the situation from bringing up that it was deleted. Those curious would then look into it"

i think you're wildly overestimating the possibility of this happening considering how quickly drama moves on and how minor most drama is. i also think if i were in this situation, id rather the harassers "know" they effected me than continue getting hate from new people. you're effectively making the choice for people in how they deal with a scary situation. when people are in dangerous situations (and yes getting actual suicide bait is dangerous) it should be their choice how to handle it.

"we must advise that you block and report those people, as we cannot control them"

you keep harping on how you can't control other people's actions. most reasonable people understand that. what you seem to keep sidestepping is the fact that you do very much control access to information, and that you can, as ayrt said, choose to limit access to that information.

im not a huge fan of smr, but thanks for confirming that you're disgusting people. im really not sure why "transparency" about dumbass drama is more important than the safety of real people, especially considering that "queer youth" are a significant part of FRs player base.

big fucking yikes. i won't be supporting your blog and i will actively advise others to avoid your blog based on your answers.

Re: New Drama Blog In Need of Feedback

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry to butt in but did you just disprove your entire point by saying "how quickly drama moves on and how minor most drama is. "????

if people will eventually move on and forget about it, they'd stop harassing the person? what

also don't think i didn't notice you and that other anon up there specifically bringing up marginalized people and queer folk to try to paint this in a worse light, as if the rule is specifically there to harm those people. thats real slimy, man.

Re: New Drama Blog In Need of Feedback

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
not sure why you think bringing up queer people is slimy when FR (and tumblr for that matter) is actually overwhelmingly composed of queer people?? we are a particularly vulnerable group and it's scary that a lot of FR players are teenagers getting mixed up in this shit.

Re: New Drama Blog In Need of Feedback

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest, you guys are looking almost identical to the other shitty one that was advertising on here, the more you say. I see nothing in that that makes me feel you're much better than DRR.

The initial rules seemed alright... But you're going to be on my watch list more to report to Tumblr the moment you cross the line than for actually expecting worthwhile info.