anonrerising | Love, Drama, Dragons.

DA And how are having very valid concerns and wanting them to address those concerns a "persecution complex"?

Conspiracy theories about staff favoritism, refusal to accept criticism for their bad arguments/examples, and the entire framing of the thread as some sort of working class revolt against an oppressing corporate employer.

Where are the theories of staff favoritism? I've read the entire thread and didn't see a peep. Go ahead and pull examples, nonny. The whole thread is archived for you.

It was discussed on SMR and discord by people involved with the making of the thread.

I completely agree with the skinmakers' point, but the majority of them are overreacting over a thread deletion that was technically justified, even if it looks bad outwardly on staff's part. They're acting like the rule against talking about staff enforcement of the rules hasn't been around for years, and that they're specifically being singled out for daring to speak up.

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>didn't know FR was an autocracy
Ngl I lol'd. It is a business and the owners get the final say in how the business runs. Image is everything to kid-friendly businesses like FR.

What did they think it was, a democracy?

I don't think FR is technically kid friendly because you have to be 13. But I do think they have other reasons to be concerned about their image

One of the things I get tired of are the people who will bring up other T rated things and go 'but FR doesnt' have that!!!!'.

Like, no, but not every T rated piece of media has to allow the same things. FR isn't rated E, because they do want to allow things that probably wouldn't pass in an E rated piece of media. But that doesn't mean they have to allow everything that is allowed in a T rated piece of media either.

For instance R: Restricted means
R: Restricted, Children Under 17 Require Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian. This rating means the film contains adult material such as adult activity, harsh language, intense graphic violence, drug abuse and nudity.

But that doesn't mean that every single R rated movie will have nudity, graphic violence, adult activity etc.. It might be rated R for Drug abuse only, or harsh language only.

T rated media can contain a lot of things, but being T rated doesn't mean it HAS to contain everything that T rated media can contain.

(sorry for the rant, I just get tired of seeing 'XXX is Teen rated and it has Y, so let FR have Y too')

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These screencaps don't make the site look better. Yes, FR is an "autocracy" like every other video game out there. I've never heard of a video game where users were allowed to have a significant say in how it operates.

Maybe I'm getting old but I don't understand why people stay on a site they dislike so much. If you really don't like the site and how it's run, I think the best idea would be to leave just for your own sanity/wellness. There are so many other video games/pet sites/hobbies in the world. There have even been times when I stopped playing FR. (Not because I had any particular issues with the site, but because I didn't feel like it was worth my time)

I'm not saying this because I care about the admin's feelings. I know at the the end of the day they're only motivated by $$$ and aren't hurt over complaints. I think it's just good common sense for life to not spend time on things that upset you.

I also think it's fine to voice complaints, but empirically most of the time player complaints rarely lead to substantial changes. A lot of the times it's because the players who spend the most money in online games aren't the same ones who are vocal in the community.

it's possible to really dislike an aspect of the site and want to advocate for it to change while also very much enjoying other aspects of the site.

da

Or, for that matter, to want to give constructive criticism. I don't have a lot of free time to hang out in suggestions these days, but I have in the past - if I didn't think the site as a whole was great, I wouldn't put so much effort into hypothesizing UI tweaks.

I think it's fine to advocate for suggestions but you have to accept the fact that most of them will never get implemented, even the good ones.

ayrt

Yep, true. Even the simple-to-implement guaranteed-to-be-uncontroversially-well-received ones. I wouldn't throw a tantrum about it, but it does get a little discouraging to advocate for something of that nature for literal years and know the staff probably never saw it. Another reason I'm less motivated to spend time doing it. (The alternative was making it my life's work to learn coding and get myself a job on the team just to fix all that tiny little detail-oriented stuff.)

I mean that’s just the nature of video games in general. Or any other business.

ayrt

Yeah, I know. Just personal bias for picky, seemingly-inconsequential factors that, in my opinion, could have an outsize impact.

I see but FR is never going to be a democracy like some people wish

A for profit business should never be a democracy. Especially a game. Some things players desire will either kill games or become a legal minefield.

I also completely agree that the skin rules need an update, but aaa also has a record of being like this in general. I've been in there before and they act like each time they get a skin denied, it's the end of the world, they're quitting, all their work is for nothing. I know it's frustrating, but it's the same thing every time.

I defo think the rules may need an update after a long while.

Random, but about the aaa part, I guess the users in there just use it as a skin and accent related venting server. some of the responses are rather overblown (the locked thread part, for example and really extreme responses ) but maybe because there aren’t a lot of places to just generally get frustrated about it. I wouldn’t chalk it up to serious malice

AYRT

Yeah, I can understand that. Considering how quickly the thread got locked, there's definitely no other way to vent. I left the server because the venting and negativity bothered me --- I remember seeing a user that said they'd quit making accents as soon as they got just one skin denial, and they did. So. I'm in favor of the rules needing a refresh, I just think aaa might not be my thing. it felt very bitter a lot of the time.

yeah, this. venting among friends should be a safe space to say some dumb shit lol.

I also agree that the rules need an update, and some clarification.

A couple of the skins in the thread, I would have printed.

I think my issue is what I said elsewhere: This type of issue has been going on for several years now, about the blood and suffering, and yet skin makers are STILL putting arrows in dragons with liquids dripping down, putting cross sections of dragons with bone like imagery, and adding blood to dragons when it doesn't have to be. Then complaining when they get denied and pointing out to others that don't necessarily look the same that got approved.

Like that Werewolf one. There was blood on the shoulder that was apparently not meant to be the dragons. But, to me, it look like blood from a bullet wound. I thought 'werewolf, must have been shot by a silver bullet'. Especially because it is no where near any of the other art on the dragon.

At this point, some of these (and again not all) skin makers feel like the people who will click on a thread with 'My Spider Pet!!!!' and complain about seeing spider pictures and them being arachnophobic and how dare that person show off their spider. (or any instance of where people will click on something they KNOW they don't like/are going to be offended about, and then, surprise surprise, gets offended by it, then make themselves out to be the victim because they were offended)

Basically looking for something to complain/be offended about.

I’m hoping that most of these people are kids because I have no idea how they succeed in life. Like the normal job finding process is a million times more obtuse and frustrating than dealing with the FR skin queue. Or being an artist and having to deal with clients, etc

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