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(Anonymous) 2025-11-15 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I know the pvp forums are like notorious for annoying ppl but how many times can I open a thread up to see them belittling and being openly hostile to random people they see as "elitist" or whatever.

This is them being genuinely obnoxious and rude about kickstarter backers as if they're a concept and not real people who can read the forums they're in: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3441882/11#post_59774119

Then now, on the SUGGESTIONS FORUMS being petty and passive aggressive about people DISAGREEING with their initial suggestion: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/3445141/2#post_59825639 "it's not our job to to figure out incentives" mf it's the suggestions forums.

Like idk. Maybe petty salt. But holy shit everytime I read a message from them it's so condescending. For what. For why?

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-15 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
I put them on block after the first time I saw them being unnecessarily aggressive 😎

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-17 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
archived links for you \o idk if this person tends to delete stuff but just in case

link 1 (imp scrolls): https://archive.is/rcq5h
link 2 (incentives): https://archive.is/7fn4t

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-17 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
SA i just skimmed the posts before archiving them and having gone back to read them properly afterward: what the fuck are they even saying

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-17 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
no i agree with you. i think there's merit to some (SOME) of their opinions but it is usually so needlessly aggressive, condescending, and long-winded that i can't get through a post without sighing. especially about things that IMO are kind of nothingburgers. i know its easy to say "hurhur touch grass" but i see these types of people and kind of question why they're even playing FR if they're so aggrieved by every little thing. surely there's better things to do than argue with strangers online about dragon PNGs all day

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-18 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Cipher is weird weird

They posted this insane rant on Tumblr about how FR is restricting freedom of speech because Aeq asked people to calm down a bit after the swipp update

https://www.tumblr.com/askshivanulegacy/796517447518846976/good-lord-people-sure-want-to-enshittify-this-new
archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20251006015008/https://www.tumblr.com/askshivanulegacy/796517447518846976/good-lord-people-sure-want-to-enshittify-this-new

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-18 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Who gave them access to the word "enshittification" holy shit this entire post is insanely annoying

i can't be fucked to go through the imp thread but i bet they were also the person using "rich get richer" for like. KS item holders

put the thinkpiece terminology back on the shelf buddy

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
SA. go through the entire #flight rising tag on their blog for free entertainment. there's so much

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-19 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
So while they're not wrong on most subjects, making a FR-hating tribute daily (or almost daily), just to remind people that you really do hate the website, is wild.

Yeah, it sucks some items are basically lost media on FR now, that there are annoying RMTers in their RMT cult trying to convince random, normal players that "you just need to work very hard and save gems!" to get stuff that they have plenty and obtained through unsupported means.

That some topics that were more open to discussion years ago are now off the table (bigotry is of course not included in those topics.)

But dedicating so much of your personal time to cry about it? Weird.

And I say this as a certified hater. It’s so easy to just not care about all the shitty/frustrating stuff of FR.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-19 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
There’s a definite difference between “this product changed objectively for the worse” and “we are adapting our product to suit changing regulatory demands and a different and larger playerbase” and most of what’s going on with FR is the latter.

Specifically, with the more mature topics - I’ve moderated conversations for places people can ask those questions and discuss those topics. Let me tell you. If you don’t want things to descend into R and/or NC-17, you have to either rely on a wildly over sensitive automod (which only works somewhat) or babysit it personally All. The. Time. A lot of teenagers especially are still learning the boundaries between “edgy” and “to be discussed with therapist, not in public on the internet”. FR has what, 10 mods? Maybe 20? Most of whom are volunteers rather than paid staff.

Would I like to have a little more grit in my fantasy? Sure. Do I understand why FR made the choices they did? Oh, 1000%, and I can’t see myself making different choices if I were in their shoes.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-20 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

This is what I have wanted to say everytime the issue about gore and how other media handle it come up.

I have seen it time and time again, where people, whether edgy teenagers (or adults) or just people who want to stir the pot, will deliberately bring up topics they KNOW are going to be a hot bed of angry responses, and will push the boundaries of what the rules say.

If the rules don't explicitly say 'Don't say X' but just say something like 'Topics about the Alphabet are not allowed', then they will try to find any way they think of to bring X into the discussion. Because the rules don't specifically disallow X and X isn't always part of the alphabet. It can be a variable as well!

This is how it goes for both adult topics AND gore. And just about any other topic that can 'rage bait' people.

If you want examples, look at what Rhea did with the 'Cum Dragon', and all the examples that are often brought up on SMR about dragons with borderline lewd names, or all the 420 teehee dragons, and the like.

These are the 'give an inch, they will take a mile' type people. And they always ruin it for everyone else who will be happy with the inch and happily keep their lore within that area.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-20 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but the one above.

I 100% agree with this. My comment about them being right was more aimed towards the discussions about the lost media items on FR (imp scrolls, KS items etc). While I don’t care about these items I feel like it’s healthy to hold the staff accountable for the mess these items create(d). The light sprite hoard should never have happened.

But the whole "wahh they're minimodding! My freedom of speech! Wuh!" complaining is stupid.

And yes, it’s not hard to understand why more mature themes have been more and more policed, or banned, these past few years. It doesn’t mean they can’t exist anymore. Just that the more extreme stuff has no place on a 13+ website. Which is fair.

If you feel like your creativity is being impeded somewhere, you're free to write your own book and put whatever the hell you want in it.

I don’t get why people like CT don’t just do that.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah, I think that the KS items, especially the imp scroll, were a bad idea.

However, I will also say that FR isn't the first game to have done this, nor the last, so it isn't like FR specifically went out of their way to create the issue with these items.

Do I think that there are better ways to handle things now? Sure, but with the site as old as it is, you have to remember that was pretty much standard practice back then (to offer exclusive items and to retire items).

With the KS items specifically, I think they are in a catch-22. If they just rerelease those items, they run the risk of hampering future endeavors, through the idea of 'well, if I wait long enough I will just get those items anyway' and 'staff said they wouldn't rerelease them, but did! can't trust staff', but if they keep them retired, well, we get what we have now.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
nyart

I honestly don't think that imp scrolls were a bad idea at all. I've been on a lot of petsites and mmorpgs with retired items and it is strange/interesting how FR is the only one I've been on where this is such an issue, especially when imps are The most common breed overall

I can't even compare it to UCs on neopets which would be the closest comparison to me for being extremely high value, very rare and dependent on being an early and consistent adopter, but even then the scandal was that you simply could not get an UC pet unless you were in the in-crowd or RMT. G1 imps could be the comparison, but aside from pt. 11 text that says no parents they are indistinguishable from any other imp on the site, so it doesn't really feel like a useful comparison.

But I guess at the end of the day it is an emotional thing that is more unique to FR than your lorwolfs or neopets or liodens or chickensmoothies and that is that your dragon is Yours and you don't want an identical imp you want Your dragon to be an imp specifically

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-20 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Rhea didn't have a cum dragon she had a BDSM pillow princess twink dragon. There was the white slime icon in the bio though. People WERE making cum dragons frequently enough that they had to ban the word "jar" though

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
*the name jar, if they banned the word entirely that'd be ridiculous lol

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought three letter names were banned in general? And not just jar

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I hadn't exactly forgotten that it was BDSM specifically, just sort of slipped my mind. I was thinking of the horse harness skin she used when I posted the above, but ...my mind is a strange and slippery place. Just because I think it doesn't mean it comes out when I want it to :P

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Since there always seems to be at least one person ootl when the subject of Rhea's BDSM dragon comes up, here's an archive link

https://web.archive.org/web/20200724171728/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/4347150

This is why people have trouble getting horse gear UMAs approved now

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
(It's gross too because afaik Rhea is a woman and this whole dragon just reeks of gay men fetishisation)

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's gross because it's on a website for children not because you think gay men own the leather scene.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-19 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
The way that they talk about "the micromanagement" in that post as like this duplicitous entity feels conspiratorial in a way that's really uncomfortable to me not gonna lie

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-19 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
are... they calling acorn, an admin and community manager, a minimod too?

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-19 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
They sure are. The audacity of that is fucking wild.

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-21 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Acorn ... Teehee