If they had just left it at design feedback, I would disagree with you.
I do think it's weird that the only other time FR has been involved with charity (that I know of) has been Akiri's Campaign Zero donation https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2869492.
Charities have otherwise been discouraged from being mentioned on-site; Flight Rising as a company is only willing to engage with charity if it's been critisized for racism. It's using POC as PR props imo.
I don't think it's right to have FR users to be the ones monetarily donating for "reperations" or whatever this time.
"Charities have otherwise been discouraged from being mentioned on-site"
This is extremely disingenuous. FR only discourages charities/fundraisers brought up /by players/ because it's not not feasible for them to vet/determine which of these are legitimate/trustworthy and remove only those.
Really would love to hear why you think it's inappropriate for them to do this when it was literally something that was run by a professional who is an expert in the culture in question. What the fuck else do you want them to do anon?
is that professional's opinion, someone who is specifically a cultural consultant, not matter because their heritage is ambiguous and not personally known to you?
not for nothing but I have a friend who's a professional cultural consultant so this is something I'm actually very familiar with: cultural consultants are always from the culture they're consulting on. that's how the field works.
I hope this can be at least a little reassuring to you and other anons.
No, no FR needs to disclose the full legal name and home address of everyone they hire so that nonny can determine if their blood and upbringing is pure enough to .........do the job they were hired to do.
right bc what if FR are super racists and intentionally hired a white supremacist instead!! i mean can we really trust them?? FR must comply so i personally can verify!!
some of these anons are braindead or way too immature
AYRT Lol I already said up top, I think they should've left this movement to design feedback, the exact thing that was up for citisism in the first place. No more, no less. I don't have to agree with everything decision a "cultural expert" comes up with, they're 1 person. POC aren't a monolith, even an individual who is acedemically invested in cultral sensitivity can come up with something that other POC disagree with.
I'm sorry I didn't make this part clear: Flight Rising should either be participating in charities on a regular basis, regardless of backlash and out of their own genuine good-will, or not at all. I mearly bring up the discouragment to illustrate FR's hardened position, that they are NOT a charity, they have no interest in charity in any-way-shape-or form, they are a business. When staff is racist tho? Suddenly they're grabbing the nearest POC in need to use as a shield. It's gross.
still didn't answer my question, what do you want FR to do? seriously
obviously one person, expert or not, cannot speak for an entire group of people. however i feel that FR did quite a bit of due diligence working with that cultural consultant, and i don't think it's very fair to them to completely dismiss everything they're doing as white guilt or whatever else was said. like who are you randoms and what do you know about the actual positives/harms that come from this?
it's like no matter what they do, they cannot win lol
>still didn't answer my question, what do you want FR to do? seriously
>I already said up top, I think they should've left this movement to design feedback, the exact thing that was up for citisism in the first place. No more, no less.
What is the fucking big deal about this fucking fundraiser
FR - We wanted to make a tribute to the real mythical creature that inspired our recent wind ancient, instead of having the wind ancient more closely resembling that mythical creature. To prevent us from profiting off of this cultural myth that we do not belong to, we will only release them in a method where FR gets zero profits and all proceeds are given to an associated charity.
You weirdos - UMMM actually this makes it so much worse and super racist!! You would have been better off NOT raising money for a charity that has some actual importance right now with the current political climate of American and for asian-americans who look like they could be an immigrant!! They MUST just be shielding for how racist they actually are! We MUST take the least charitable interpretation of a free-to-play website doing literal charity!
When people complain about the left and their trend of getting nothing done because it might be wrong, this is what they're fucking talking about.
are you actually asian or are you keyboard warrior us rn, ive talked to several asian people who liked what staff is doing with suggestions for improvement. im asian as well (chinese), this is such a braindead take
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)I do think it's weird that the only other time FR has been involved with charity (that I know of) has been Akiri's Campaign Zero donation https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2869492.
Charities have otherwise been discouraged from being mentioned on-site; Flight Rising as a company is only willing to engage with charity if it's been critisized for racism. It's using POC as PR props imo.
I don't think it's right to have FR users to be the ones monetarily donating for "reperations" or whatever this time.
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)This is extremely disingenuous. FR only discourages charities/fundraisers brought up /by players/ because it's not not feasible for them to vet/determine which of these are legitimate/trustworthy and remove only those.
Really would love to hear why you think it's inappropriate for them to do this when it was literally something that was run by a professional who is an expert in the culture in question. What the fuck else do you want them to do anon?
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)are you being serious
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)do we need to do a background check? make sure they're qualified enough in your eyes? hmm what if they're lying and didn't hire anyone!
what if the world was made of pudding!
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-08 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)cultural consultants are always from the culture they're consulting on. that's how the field works.
I hope this can be at least a little reassuring to you and other anons.
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-09 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)some of these anons are braindead or way too immature
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)I'm sorry I didn't make this part clear: Flight Rising should either be participating in charities on a regular basis, regardless of backlash and out of their own genuine good-will, or not at all. I mearly bring up the discouragment to illustrate FR's hardened position, that they are NOT a charity, they have no interest in charity in any-way-shape-or form, they are a business. When staff is racist tho? Suddenly they're grabbing the nearest POC in need to use as a shield. It's gross.
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)still didn't answer my question, what do you want FR to do? seriously
obviously one person, expert or not, cannot speak for an entire group of people. however i feel that FR did quite a bit of due diligence working with that cultural consultant, and i don't think it's very fair to them to completely dismiss everything they're doing as white guilt or whatever else was said. like who are you randoms and what do you know about the actual positives/harms that come from this?
it's like no matter what they do, they cannot win lol
Re: Wind Ancient
(Anonymous) 2025-05-08 01:06 am (UTC)(link)>I already said up top, I think they should've left this movement to design feedback, the exact thing that was up for citisism in the first place. No more, no less.
Re: Wind Ancient
(Anonymous) 2025-05-08 01:15 am (UTC)(link)FR - We wanted to make a tribute to the real mythical creature that inspired our recent wind ancient, instead of having the wind ancient more closely resembling that mythical creature. To prevent us from profiting off of this cultural myth that we do not belong to, we will only release them in a method where FR gets zero profits and all proceeds are given to an associated charity.
You weirdos - UMMM actually this makes it so much worse and super racist!! You would have been better off NOT raising money for a charity that has some actual importance right now with the current political climate of American and for asian-americans who look like they could be an immigrant!! They MUST just be shielding for how racist they actually are! We MUST take the least charitable interpretation of a free-to-play website doing literal charity!
When people complain about the left and their trend of getting nothing done because it might be wrong, this is what they're fucking talking about.
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(Anonymous) 2025-05-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)is it possible to just be normal about asian cultures? the world will never know
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