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[(Anonymous)]

These weirdos are dogging you out in the comments, I completely understand you nonny. I was bullied by these clowns as well. That was years ago and even now it’s hard for me to return and play

I hate pulling the I was a minor card, but I literally was a minor and for a website that goes on about mental wellness it’s just hypocritical

when a minor is clearly mentally stressed and unwell, they do not care

[(Anonymous)]

mate, anon comms are not a good place to get positive feedback. or any kind of feedback really.

it's even more ill-advised to consider an anon comm as being somehow reflective of a website's general community and vice-versa. like i'm pretty sure 90% or more of the FR community has no idea these spaces exist and could care less if they did.

also the quicker minors learn to steer clear of anon comms the better imo. nobody knows who anybody else is (generally). that's the whole point. you can't expect people to just infer somehow that you're a minor based on your post or whatever.

to any minor still reading please learn to protect yourself and avoid anon spaces if they're causing you harm. the on-site forums are way better for getting actual honest feedback and they're moderated more strictly so dogpiling is way less likely to happen.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who has been on these kinds of comms for various things since LJ days and has been targeted on one of these before: Minors and the sensitive do not belong here. These are a place for brutal unadulterated honesty and harshness.

You being a minor was not some kind of get out of drama free card. While folks should hold back on being nasty about kids, this particular comm has been exceptional for the moderators stopping unwarranted bullshit as well as other users calling it out. If you got dragged through the muck, it was either warranted by your behavior or on the previous incarnation of this comm.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why it's so important for children to be taught internet safety and to be supervised until they've grown up enough to be responsible. If a minor is so unwell that they can't keep themselves away from adult-centered external communities, that's a good sign that they're too unwell to be managing their own internet usage.

Internet safety can be challenging! Plenty of people, minors and adults, use the internet to self-harm. However, adults are responsible for themselves and minors who can't be responsible for themselves need to have that responsibility taken up by their parents.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as someone who had unmonitored internet access as a child in the 90s, when no one understood that... So much this. I know I harmed myself without realizing what I was doing. It's enthralling like fire, except the burns sometimes don't show for years.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Oh man I feel this. I didn't even have a computer at home, my friend did,and when I stayed at their place on weekends, I had unfettered, unmonitored access to AOL in all its 90's Internet Glory at age 13... won't go into details, but yeah, there was definitely damage from it.

Kids really have no idea what the internet was like back then, and how much worse it can be nowadays. Shit's dangerous. (And it's why my own kid isn't allowed on social media until she's old enough.)

[(Anonymous)]

idk the mods and other anons here are pretty good about shutting down discussions about minor players, unless it's something serious.

the last time i even remember a minor being actively discussed was previous AR when act#453360 said they sold drugs for gems and was telling another minor to 'financially manipulate' their abuser.

i don't think that minors get featured here unless one no one knows or can tell, or two it's something more than just oh they're being annoying because they're a kid. if they're doing something enough to get brought up and discussed on somewhere like ARR, they're doing way too much for their age

[(Anonymous)]

Anon RE rising is good about bullying minors

AnonRising bullied minors relentlessly

Da

[(Anonymous)]

Yea, well that was a different place under different mods with a likely significantly different user base.

We are not responsible for the bullshit that got through there ages ago.

Re: Da

[(Anonymous)]

"We are not responsible for the bullshit that got through there ages ago."

Okay... but that doesn't give (you/you guys) the right to completely dismiss the experiences of the anons above. AnonRising bullied minors. Those minors are adults now and shared they are still afraid to play because of what happened.

Don't dismiss that.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nonny, we’re not dismissing it, we’re just not taking responsibility for another site’s actions. Or for managing the trauma that results. If a player has complex emotional and mental health issues surrounding a pixel petsim saltblog, the best thing they can do for their mental health is probably to stay away from pixel petsim saltblogs. This isn’t a critical service. We’re not providing food or shelter or medical attention or mental health support. We’re a group of salty little beasts bitching about people formatting posts in stupid ways. Staying away from here doesn’t even stop you from playing the base game, and in fact it probably will improve the experience of the game.

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[(Anonymous)]

go piss and shit your pants then nonny

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[(Anonymous)]

Two things can be true: It's bad to bully any person, including minors. Random assholes on the internet are not responsible for anyone else's mental health, including minors. Adults are responsible for themselves and parents are responsible for minors if they have not successfully learned to take that responsibility. I'm so glad that most of my online communities are explicitly adult-only because it prevents the problem of kids (or adults) pulling the "but I'm literally a minor" card when they can't manage their own selves and want someone else to do it for them.

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[(Anonymous)]

Actually random assholes are responsible for the consequences of their actions they just don’t care why are u all acting like if you’re enough of a noxious fuckhead it automatically makes it other people’s fault for interacting w you or existing in the same space and not like a choice you’ve made to be a noxious fuckhead
Idk I’ve been here since forever and I’m glad the culture has shifted a fair deal gonna be honest

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[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

This comment is in such bad faith oh my god dude....wtf

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[(Anonymous)]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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[(Anonymous)]

*blinks*

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[(Anonymous)]

It's from an ancient meme, and it's a way of saying "I had no idea what the fuck you meant by this."

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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Thank you, I hadn't seen that meme. Or I have and just forgot I saw it :P Either could be true on any given day.

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[(Anonymous)]

TL;DR Assholes are always going to exist, that is why it is up to each individual to take responsiblity for their own wellbeing.

Again, two things can be true.

Random assholes are responsible for the consequences, but good luck tracking them down and making them *take* responsiblity. Plus, there are *always* going to be random assholes. They existed in 2001 when I was modding Morrowind and putting those mods up, and they exist today. They existed before that as well.

Which brings me to the second part: If you let these assholes affect you to the point you no longer enjoy something, that is a you problem. If you are constantly going onto sites you know are populated by these assholes, that is a you problem. YOU also have a responsiblity to take responsiblity for your own actions.

It can be hard to ignore them, I know. But, that is what they WANT. That is often why they ARE being assholes, because they *want* that reaction. That is why each person must take responsiblity for their own mental wellbeing, and parents/guardians need to take responsiblity for the minors in their care. Because the assholes aren't going to go away and when they get the reaction they want, they are validated.

There are so many options now to deal with them, mostly to do with blocking and just scrolling past. Someone says something you don't like, block and move on, and/or scroll past.

If you can't take seeing salt about you, don't go on a salt blog. If you can't take people disagreeing or being rude, then I am sorry, don't post on the internet. Because in most cases, it is guaranteed that you are going to get someone who will come in and be rude, just because they can or because they really hate your opinion.

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[(Anonymous)]

Ya know, if you're bewildered why randos on the internet seem to always be "toxic" toward you, it might be because you react like this. You're reaching so hard for people to be saying things that you can Get Mad At! and when you blow up at people, they're more likely to respond back in kind.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nonny we’re saying WE’RE NOT THOSE ASSHOLES. Those assholes exist. They should absolutely be called out. But since the world is not perfect, all the rest of us need to learn how not to let them ruin our lives. Saying “wow, this corner of the internet is full of assholes, I’m going to not come back here” is not letting them win. It’s depriving them of a victim.

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[(Anonymous)]

You're wild for this take nonny, have you been on the internet?

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[(Anonymous)]

Nah randomly accusing strangers that they're bullies from a decade ago deserves to get dismissed.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not dismissing that it happened. I'm stating that it's not our fault nor is it our cross to bear to carry the blame for something someone else did in another community on the same web service.