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Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

What is the CS incident?

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

we're losing the ancient texts /j

no but actually CS stands for Celestial Senate, a thing that happened literally a decade ago where Arcanedom had spies in other flights (I think specifically Light, to get info on their bank during a battle) and it came out and was a whole thing. The funniest part is I've still seen Arcanedom people use it as an excuse to why their dom is a mess to this day.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Not quite. It was not spies, because Arcane had not recruited any Out-of-Flight players. Instead, at least one ArcaneDom organizer had multiple accounts spread across every flight to snoop on their internal Dom activities.

Da

[(Anonymous)]

Wait. So it was stupider than spy based espionage? Multiaccounting?

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but who were the organizer(s) that did that? the only thing i can think of that could link a decade-old incident to arcanedom's current dumpsterfire (like AYRT mentioned) is if the same organizer(s) were still involved somehow...? but of course, the current arcanedom organizers could just be grasping at straws to avoid actually taking responsibility...

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Steex (one of the "main" people running the Senate and the one doing the multiaccounting) is still on the dom team under the name ST6X. Can only imagine why they were allowed back, if not kept on, since I have no idea when/if they left and returned.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

WHAT I had no idea the person who actually did the celestial senate thing is still on the dom team thats wild

you'd think even if it was a decade ago they'd still be like abbbsoolluuteellly not. no wonder arcanedom is still so shady

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

You’d think they would, if only for the sake of their image. I don’t know if this person has changed significantly since then but why would you want the person who had (has?) such disdain for your exalters ON your dom team!? In any capacity?

They aren’t the only one, Neffi I believe was also on that team but I can’t recall if she did anything terrible during that time, just that she was involved in the whole “spying” debacle, and she now admins the Arcane server and runs like, half of arcanedom.

Like I said, people can change, but at no point did the CS get completely replaced. Just swept under the rug.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Can vouch for Neffi she was just pulled in because originally it was like "if you know people in other flights can you ask them if they have anything specific they can tell you" played down as just "being sneaky" and "only if the person is okay with it".

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

This is the worst possible way to find out that "Arcanedom is still messed up because of the Celestial Senate" is technically correct. No wonder they have such shady vibes over there. I feel bad for Arcane.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

“arcanedom is shady” is basic. “the person who committed the celestial senate is still on the dom team” is smart. it’s possible. it’s terrifying.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

https://imgur.com/a/afq2O

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Wanna know what's so funny? they tried to point the finger at everyone over who "leaked" to Rhea about their "spy" ring to Rheas drama blog but the person who came forward and admitted it was someone who was close to them "helping" mitigate (Judoon, who is mentioned several times as someone they were waiting for), Steex made a sockpuppet account and gained entry into Light slack to keep eyes on a former Arcane person and Slack was approached and the person's sock account was removed for stalking (=

Truly what it was was a mix of people who knew people in other flights or "knew people"/multi'd in other flights and were poorly info gathering. Steex was caught and yeeted, had to remake. Re-named themselves again it seems.

Oh yeah I was a part of this before I left arcane, speaking from experience for the record. -SF

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

This is a real "Everyone Sucks Here" moment between Steex, Arcanedom, and Rhea. How did Steex not get an IP ban from FR for stalking, given that the Slack stalking was directly tied to FR?

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but you're so right how is this person not ip-banned for genuinely stalking someone. even worse too their victim still plays, how unnerving must that be for them. sometimes I think FR staff takes "it happened off of FR so its not in our jurisdiction" too far

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Yeahhh I mean if the victim didn't approach FR with the report then maybe staff couldn't do anything with the offsite stuff. I don't imagine that it was easy being like hey so all this offsite drama about the website yeah I'm being stalked about it. Especially back then it was a bit contentious with staff people were worried that if they were implied a part of this whole thing that staff would ban then for suspected multi-ing. I do think FR staff hold their hands up a lot going "not my circus we can't prove it" mostly so they don't have to litigate rumors? Because I imagine that'd be a nightmare.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

So from what I understood since Steex was banned from multi-accounting their FR accounts were gotten- but the Slack account wasn't found till Light went to Slack directly like hey so there's someone who's stalking one of our team (slacks are "teams") can you help us here's what we know. Slack immediately took action, which go Slack tbh, 10 years ago on the internet stalking felt really tongue in cheek "oh I have a ~facebook stalker~"/"I ~stalk~ this person" used to be sort of a joke.

Rhea was living for the drama she made replied to and reblogged so much garbage back then I'm so glad that her blog isn't ruining people's day anymore tbh

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

i'm sorry I know it was almost ten years ago but omg cringe. what weirdos, i hope they've all grown from this.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

RIGHT God this was so much bs that escalated well past normal and straight into intensely embarrassing

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Ok with the caveat that this is obviously scummy to do, this is so funny. Imagine taking flight rising dom so seriously you have a spy ring and you melt down trying to find a way to explain it. It's a dragon png site???

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Back when FR started, dom pushes were actually secret. Because of how dom worked back then, flights were hush hush about it to try to stem any competition.

Part of this was because Ice had most of the whales- and if they wanted to, they could literally buy dom, which they did often.

By keeping pushes quiet, folks wouldn't start buying up fodder. Gave them an head start.

Dom's changed since then, so pushes aren't as cut throat.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think the openness of dom pushing now is because of this celestial senate stuff? Or did the population grow enough to make it not matter, or something?

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

I remember my flight used to have a strategy of buying slightly above fodder floor so that other flights wouldn't notice we were pushing until the floor fell out from under them.
What wild times. That would for sure Not Work now, nor be worthwhile on account of Hibden

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

The funniest part is when they accuse the FR community of making too much drama in a pixel dragon game when they're the ones multi-accounting, spying, cheating, playing the victim, and stalking.

Re: Raffle Donations

[(Anonymous)]

AstralCrescent lol