Very sorry you've gone through this, I've genuinely never heard of this sort of behavior. Maybe it's because I'm in spaces with transmasc lesbians who face a bunch of shit from people who try to police identities day in and out. Ultimately, I still agree with the idea that cis people will generally benefit from being told that there's more options to them than AGAB since we all need to start somewhere.
Forgot something. Definitely an "our experiences aren't universal" scenario but saying that transfems are allowed to explore while transmascs aren't is... Kinda wild? Almost every transfem I know has struggled to express herself because of backlash from randos and the already high standards of ideal femininity. Don't get me wrong, I have seen the other side where transmascs get derided for enjoying GNC styles or unmasculine interests. It sucks both ways. Nobody wins.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I definitely know how trans women get shat on for exploring, too- it's DANGEROUS for trans women to be butch in any way that isn't your typical TV version of butch (flannel shirt and plain lipstick lol)
It sucks for everyone and I just wish folks would let people wear what they want lol.
"I still agree with the idea that cis people will generally benefit from being told that there's more options to them than AGAB since we all need to start somewhere."
you seem to have missed that the entire context of this conversation is a trans woman (or transfemme nonbinary) telling a trans man he's being transmisogynistic for not wanting to have his identity as a trans man questioned for anything short of perfectly conforming to ideal masculinity
Admittedly I only skimmed the thread because I wasn't in a place to give it a proper read. That sucks. I actually did acknowledge that I might've missed that sort of crucial context. I still stand by my statement.
ok, but the statement you made is irrelevant to the issue. no one here disagrees with you that it is a good thing to help cis people realize there are options other than default settings available to them. trans men are not cis people who need the charity of someone telling them they might actually be a woman.
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Re: LGBTQ+ thread
(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 04:58 am (UTC)(link)Ultimately, I still agree with the idea that cis people will generally benefit from being told that there's more options to them than AGAB since we all need to start somewhere.
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(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 05:13 am (UTC)(link)Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I definitely know how trans women get shat on for exploring, too- it's DANGEROUS for trans women to be butch in any way that isn't your typical TV version of butch (flannel shirt and plain lipstick lol)
It sucks for everyone and I just wish folks would let people wear what they want lol.
Re: LGBTQ+ thread
(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 05:20 am (UTC)(link)you seem to have missed that the entire context of this conversation is a trans woman (or transfemme nonbinary) telling a trans man he's being transmisogynistic for not wanting to have his identity as a trans man questioned for anything short of perfectly conforming to ideal masculinity
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