Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-04 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I played around with their demo cat creator and unfortunately this is just another site where 98% of the color combinations are awful. You're stuck with natural colors if you want decent pets and the ability to actually make money from their lineage. Otherwise your entire collection is going to be gross looking fodder.

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
of course idk how its gonna play out when the site goes live but based on the discord a lot of people are really into non natural colors when breeding. i myself am gonna probably stick to more natural designs too but if people can put up with lorwolf's abominations they can probably get something out of these.

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
umm no i don't think this is the case at all actually! part of the reason why LW had this problem is because their color wheel was very large and had huge pits of very muddy colors in between color ranges.

unlike fr/lw/etc where the breeding results are colors that are between the two parents, breeding on pb works more like when you mix red and blue to make purple.

https://i.ibb.co/4nx7n48n/Screenshot-2025-02-04-165405.png this is a random pair the demo gave me, and despite being non natural colors do make cute kids

i mean you're always going to have fodder on breeding sites, but idk why you think it'll be so prevalent simply because you choose to breed non natural colors?

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
sa

also as an early access beta tester, i did get some 'ugly' follower cats (you start with three follower cats, you can reroll all three however much you want) and really all it took was putting their colors in the demo and seeing how much nicer they'd look with different genes.

important to keep in mind that the demo has relatively sparse genes compared to what the site will be at full launch

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Stupid question, but is this a different system than Sylestia's, where you can easily end up with washed out colors in your offspring if you don't know what you are doing?

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
that's not a dumb question! i didn't play sylestia so not sure, but maybe this KS post that explains the color mixing more will help? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tbpt/paw-borough-the-feline-virtual-browser-rpg/posts/3863737

there is also an updated infographic on the colors: https://i.ibb.co/S79v14VW/94d69bafbb1d995a1bc9bafbef307997-original.png

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt
dont play sylestia but based on what i could search online im gonna assume it uses RGB values? pb does not do that, it's like flight rising where each color has predetermined palettes (base/accent colors).

each color has three values: hue, luminosity/brightness (IDR which is the official term), and saturation. hues are greyscale, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, teal, blue, purple, and pink. luminosity includes light, medium, and dark. saturation includes saturated and desaturated.

for example: coral is red, light, and saturated. whale is blue, dark, and desaturated.

when breeding, kits will inherit colors with the values of the parents. so a coral + whale pairing will result in red/blue, light/dark, and saturated/desaturated colors. in addition to that, there's some paint mixing inspiration with hue combination, so this pair would also include purple and pink hues in addition to the base color pool.

sorry if this doesnt make any sense its so normal to me at this point. playing with the demo might help with making it make a little sense.

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Sylestia uses hex codes and color mixing, so it is easy to get muddy colors there because of that.

Pawborough uses, what sounds like, predetermined colors like Flight Rising's color wheel, where you can breed X and Z and will get X, Y or Z as the color, you aren't going to be able to get A, D, or P as colors, or Z1 or Y2 (ie different hues/shades of Z and Y)

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately the demo has never loaded the offspring for me so I had no idea how the breeding actually worked. (Which is another reason why I won't be playing because if the demo isn't going to work right then neither will the actual game.) We'll have to agree to disagree I still find the cats to be extremely lackluster and don't like the majority of the color wheel options. I'm not going to keep ugly pets just because there's a 25% chance of having a slightly more decent offspring that maybe someone would be willing to pay for. They're just as ugly as the LW pets to me but if you find them cute then at least you'll have gotten your moneys worth. 🤷‍♂️

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
- Unfortunately the demo has never loaded the offspring for me so I had no idea how the breeding actually worked.

i'm so confused then how you're certain of how the breeding outcomes will be lol all good if this site won't be your thing though!

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I generated the adult cats a bunch of times and was unsatisfied with the vast majority of the color wheel. I assumed the breeding would work like Flight Rising because the offspring generator part never actually worked for me. Knowing how it works now based off of the other comments and viewing the links has not changed my original opinion of not liking the game.

Re: pawborough beta

(Anonymous) 2025-02-05 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt its kinda awesome how theres a not insignificant amount of people who will admit to not seeing or understanding something but use that ignorance as proof of it being bad. like its kind of comforting to remind myself of that whenever i see sudden and baffling influxes of negativity