"egg jokes usually only apply to men and women doing "masculine" things is either overlooked or clocked as empowering #feminism or whatever"
super tired and weird rn now (thanks ambien) so i might say some dumb shit or have dumb formatting due to lack of lucidity
but, to me at least, some of the egg jokes aimed at men come close to the classic toxic masculinity point of: "if you are a man who does anything stereotypically perceived as feminine then you are not a real man/actually a WOMAN!" expect with a veneer of progressiveness. Instead of "REAL alpha males don't were sissy girly clothes!" you get "You're a man who likes to wear dresses? Clearly you're a (closeted trans) woman!" Even if its not intended that way, surely at its core the egg joke is basically assuming a man who falls outside of the traditional male gender norms must be a woman or womanly in some way.
Yeah that's why I think aiming egg jokes at people you don't know in a generally public space is a bad call.
It's fine in smaller spaces with folks you at least have a baseline knowledge of, because then if it's not well received, it can be discussed and moved on from.
But public forums, at strangers... not a good call. Time and place.
This is why the whole bit about 'telling cis people that more options exist' rubs me the wrong way.
If you know the person is actively questioning their gender, sure, let them know.
But, sometimes people are just looking for a different style. Sometimes people just have different tastes. Sometimes people want to do something different.
It doesn't mean they are questioning their gender, or that they are trans.
I guess, I am just of the opinion that if you aren't sure what that person is going through, and whether or not your opinion would be welcome, keep it to yourself. If you know they are open to hearing your opinion (and this is on pretty much any subject), then go ahead and give it. But I see too many people who expect other people to always be ready and willing to hear *their* opinion (and they are often the people who really HATE when people have differing opinions to themselves), no matter who it is, and accept it without getting upset.
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Re: LGBTQ+ thread
(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 06:47 am (UTC)(link)super tired and weird rn now (thanks ambien) so i might say some dumb shit or have dumb formatting due to lack of lucidity
but, to me at least, some of the egg jokes aimed at men come close to the classic toxic masculinity point of: "if you are a man who does anything stereotypically perceived as feminine then you are not a real man/actually a WOMAN!" expect with a veneer of progressiveness. Instead of "REAL alpha males don't were sissy girly clothes!" you get "You're a man who likes to wear dresses? Clearly you're a (closeted trans) woman!" Even if its not intended that way, surely at its core the egg joke is basically assuming a man who falls outside of the traditional male gender norms must be a woman or womanly in some way.
Obviously there's much much more nuance to that.
Re: LGBTQ+ thread
(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 06:58 am (UTC)(link)It's fine in smaller spaces with folks you at least have a baseline knowledge of, because then if it's not well received, it can be discussed and moved on from.
But public forums, at strangers... not a good call. Time and place.
Re: LGBTQ+ thread
(Anonymous) 2025-02-22 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)This is why the whole bit about 'telling cis people that more options exist' rubs me the wrong way.
If you know the person is actively questioning their gender, sure, let them know.
But, sometimes people are just looking for a different style. Sometimes people just have different tastes. Sometimes people want to do something different.
It doesn't mean they are questioning their gender, or that they are trans.
I guess, I am just of the opinion that if you aren't sure what that person is going through, and whether or not your opinion would be welcome, keep it to yourself. If you know they are open to hearing your opinion (and this is on pretty much any subject), then go ahead and give it. But I see too many people who expect other people to always be ready and willing to hear *their* opinion (and they are often the people who really HATE when people have differing opinions to themselves), no matter who it is, and accept it without getting upset.