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I agree that it's AI-- it definitely looks different from their art in Draw the Dragon Above You-- but I unfortunately don't know enough about generators to know which it is.
Honestly, I wonder what information is necessary for staff to investigate reports of AI art/writing if the user doesn't outright state it
Honestly, I wonder what information is necessary for staff to investigate reports of AI art/writing if the user doesn't outright state it
Two letter names are less banned than blocked due to technical limits.
And Vladimir is only a problem if it's a Putin fandragon.
No one else celebrated rulebreaking like the op did.
And Vladimir is only a problem if it's a Putin fandragon.
No one else celebrated rulebreaking like the op did.
Idk why you keep coming back to pick a fight with someone over using Tumblr? Very "mature" for some 2005 graduate lol. Your grammar is amazing too, bravo
I honestly don't know if they need the specific generator to agree that the art is AI. I might just report them myself alongside OP cause that art definitely looks to be AI.
sorry just
the unironic grammar gotcha
amazing
the unironic grammar gotcha
amazing
I'm class of 2004 and both of y'all are embarrassing lol.
Freezing this because you're both being pointlessly stupid.
Freezing this because you're both being pointlessly stupid.
I am part of a FR Facebook group and sometimes, people post about being banned.
It always intrigues me how they dodge the reason in comments, mostly saying "my brother and sister play but they haven't logged in for days/months/years" with dozens of comments either confirming or denying that is bannable.
Sometimes, rarely, the ban was wrong or unjust and trigger happy staff just blanket banned without investigating properly and very very rarely is the ban overturned.
In some ways I feel a little pity for the genuine mistakes and nothing for those who claim they are not a multi-- then again, we see plenty on here, report them and nothing happens *cough*MiaShuji*cough* and yet these seemingly innocent people are so upset that they got banned and most of the time, after some digging they had done something shady.
I do wonder where staff draws that line and if they even when given evidence which some players have done, simply say..no. But are letting blatent multi's and RTC happen without batting an eyelid. It's just so bizarre to me.
Opinions?
It always intrigues me how they dodge the reason in comments, mostly saying "my brother and sister play but they haven't logged in for days/months/years" with dozens of comments either confirming or denying that is bannable.
Sometimes, rarely, the ban was wrong or unjust and trigger happy staff just blanket banned without investigating properly and very very rarely is the ban overturned.
In some ways I feel a little pity for the genuine mistakes and nothing for those who claim they are not a multi-- then again, we see plenty on here, report them and nothing happens *cough*MiaShuji*cough* and yet these seemingly innocent people are so upset that they got banned and most of the time, after some digging they had done something shady.
I do wonder where staff draws that line and if they even when given evidence which some players have done, simply say..no. But are letting blatent multi's and RTC happen without batting an eyelid. It's just so bizarre to me.
Opinions?
Anyone know how to get into that Server? I saw some people in AAA talk about it but nobody ever posted an invite and AAA has been dead as is. Could it be that they poached some of the more active members too?
Who even runs that thing in the first place?
Who even runs that thing in the first place?
One of the things is, we can't see what is happening behind the scenes.
What a user might think is a blantant RMT or multi, might not be. They might be a group of dedicated 'friends' (basically just a group of people, not necessarily friends) who are all doing things like this. Which isn't against the rules.
Then again, it might also be that some of these cases require more digging, because even if it IS a multi, if the multi is smart, they can make it look like it isn't. (such as not blatantly funneling from one account to the main) Which means more digging is required.
As I have said in the past in regards to 'banxiety', staff of pet sites most often don't want to ban people. They want people using their site, because it ups the metrics and gives them more ad revenue. The more they ban people, the more likely people, whether they were unfairly banned or not, are going to warn people away from the site. If the person was banned unfairly, that is even worse.
So, even if it might seem obvious to players, the staff can't just ban them without making sure that it is. Especially since I have seen many people who jump on a multi-hunt bandwagon because they dislike the person they are accusing.
Look at the other thread on here where people were talking about cross site trading and how it is often a cover for RMT. As someone who does occasionally cross site trade, the vast majority of trades I see are legit. Sure, there are some that aren't, but I would say that those are the minority of trades. It is just that some big name players are involved so they get mentioned more. The majority of people who cross site trade don't get mentioned and thus those trades just happen without anyone even knowing about it (and yes, I have cross site traded with multiple users for CS stuff from FR before)
There is also the tendency to ascribe 'bad motives' to everything a person does if they do one thing wrong, or they are disliked. I have seen it in the past where someone is accused of being a multi, and other people will start throwing around rumors of them being transphobic, or racist, and when asked for evidence, can't provide anything or the evidence they do provide is so weak it is practically non-existant. It is just that that person isn't liked. (I have seen this not just on FR but other sites as well)
So, someone is disliked by a group of people, and they do a cross site trade, it is easy for that group of people to say 'that must be RMT' and report it, without any more evidence than the person they reported is not liked or has done something else against the rules.
Add in how many reports the staff most likely has to wade through, I am sure that there are some that DO slip through the cracks, and some where it might seem like they are getting away with it, but the staff just hasn't completed the investigation yet/gotten to it. Even with evidence, staff still has to investigate, especially as I know some people are fond of sending screenshots, which can easily be faked. Or they want the staff to take action based upon off site activity.
Basically, I feel this is a case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't.' If staff just start banning quickly, they are going to be accused of being 'trigger happy' and increase banxiety, especially since there will be unfair bans handed out. If they take their time to ban, they are accused of not doing anything and people get upset that blatant rule breakers are allowed to keep playing.
What a user might think is a blantant RMT or multi, might not be. They might be a group of dedicated 'friends' (basically just a group of people, not necessarily friends) who are all doing things like this. Which isn't against the rules.
Then again, it might also be that some of these cases require more digging, because even if it IS a multi, if the multi is smart, they can make it look like it isn't. (such as not blatantly funneling from one account to the main) Which means more digging is required.
As I have said in the past in regards to 'banxiety', staff of pet sites most often don't want to ban people. They want people using their site, because it ups the metrics and gives them more ad revenue. The more they ban people, the more likely people, whether they were unfairly banned or not, are going to warn people away from the site. If the person was banned unfairly, that is even worse.
So, even if it might seem obvious to players, the staff can't just ban them without making sure that it is. Especially since I have seen many people who jump on a multi-hunt bandwagon because they dislike the person they are accusing.
Look at the other thread on here where people were talking about cross site trading and how it is often a cover for RMT. As someone who does occasionally cross site trade, the vast majority of trades I see are legit. Sure, there are some that aren't, but I would say that those are the minority of trades. It is just that some big name players are involved so they get mentioned more. The majority of people who cross site trade don't get mentioned and thus those trades just happen without anyone even knowing about it (and yes, I have cross site traded with multiple users for CS stuff from FR before)
There is also the tendency to ascribe 'bad motives' to everything a person does if they do one thing wrong, or they are disliked. I have seen it in the past where someone is accused of being a multi, and other people will start throwing around rumors of them being transphobic, or racist, and when asked for evidence, can't provide anything or the evidence they do provide is so weak it is practically non-existant. It is just that that person isn't liked. (I have seen this not just on FR but other sites as well)
So, someone is disliked by a group of people, and they do a cross site trade, it is easy for that group of people to say 'that must be RMT' and report it, without any more evidence than the person they reported is not liked or has done something else against the rules.
Add in how many reports the staff most likely has to wade through, I am sure that there are some that DO slip through the cracks, and some where it might seem like they are getting away with it, but the staff just hasn't completed the investigation yet/gotten to it. Even with evidence, staff still has to investigate, especially as I know some people are fond of sending screenshots, which can easily be faked. Or they want the staff to take action based upon off site activity.
Basically, I feel this is a case of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't.' If staff just start banning quickly, they are going to be accused of being 'trigger happy' and increase banxiety, especially since there will be unfair bans handed out. If they take their time to ban, they are accused of not doing anything and people get upset that blatant rule breakers are allowed to keep playing.
OP here, I tried searching for the generator and all the results just made me sad, so I’m just reporting the dragon and hoping they believe me. Would love extra reports tho, maybe it will make the staff more inclined to take it seriously
title!
I got back into origami recently! I’m trying to get my skills to the point that I can fold a passable paper dragon… for reference it took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure out a paper crane…
I got back into origami recently! I’m trying to get my skills to the point that I can fold a passable paper dragon… for reference it took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure out a paper crane…
Disclaimer: I don't know how to use and have not used AI generator tools before
Is there a way to feed* all the FR items into a generator and play around with making new FR items that way FOR FUN PERSONAL USE ONLY?
*manually, not scraping the site with a bot or whatever that could hurt the site
Is there a way to feed* all the FR items into a generator and play around with making new FR items that way FOR FUN PERSONAL USE ONLY?
*manually, not scraping the site with a bot or whatever that could hurt the site
I feel like you could also just report them for art theft at the very least, even if you can't prove it's AI...
I remember seeing their art in an older (but still recent) thread, that they had posted for "draw the dragon above you," and it was WILDLY different than that bio art they're claiming as theirs. It looked like the work of a very new/inexperienced artist (no hate! just an observation) and the art in the dragon bio is beyond that skill level, speaking as an artist myself tbh.
I remember seeing their art in an older (but still recent) thread, that they had posted for "draw the dragon above you," and it was WILDLY different than that bio art they're claiming as theirs. It looked like the work of a very new/inexperienced artist (no hate! just an observation) and the art in the dragon bio is beyond that skill level, speaking as an artist myself tbh.
i feel like doing this might train the bot off the fr stuff tho
the next person who comes along after you could generate images that might have elements of the fr items in them, once they've been fed to the ai
and that person might not have as good intentions yknow
the next person who comes along after you could generate images that might have elements of the fr items in them, once they've been fed to the ai
and that person might not have as good intentions yknow
Can I point out that the concept of reporting someone for art theft without any proof because you don't believe they're good enough to make an art piece is kind of fucked up?
Report them for the possible AI. Not that.
Report them for the possible AI. Not that.
She's once again flexing in discord how the can spend 320$ worth of USD on eggs lol.
Not the worst part of my observations, though: went to flip through her dragons, out of curiousity, and aside finding out that she has exceptionally bad taste I found some really weird shit in her dragon bios.
While I admit that those are very old, it's weird to me that those bios are still up, esp considering that at least one of these is on first pa of her lair. Like, she must know that those are still there, right? Normally idgaf about this but she's already known to be scummy as is so it doesn't help.
CW before viewing: What I assume is meant to be SA, incest. Also has some yucky descriptions of DID/ADHD
https://postimg.cc/gallery/Pr52HsH
Not the worst part of my observations, though: went to flip through her dragons, out of curiousity, and aside finding out that she has exceptionally bad taste I found some really weird shit in her dragon bios.
While I admit that those are very old, it's weird to me that those bios are still up, esp considering that at least one of these is on first pa of her lair. Like, she must know that those are still there, right? Normally idgaf about this but she's already known to be scummy as is so it doesn't help.
CW before viewing: What I assume is meant to be SA, incest. Also has some yucky descriptions of DID/ADHD
https://postimg.cc/gallery/Pr52HsH
Probably would have been better to web-archive these posts, because given how heavily they were cropped it's hard to figure out what bios and where they actually came from.
OP
Completely flew over my head to web archive this, thanks for reminding me
SA/Incest dragons:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504203622/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/20921693
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504203940/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/22015298
DID dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504204314/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/15874538
ADHD dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504205025/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/20757600
Stalker dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504205124/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/25082735
Completely flew over my head to web archive this, thanks for reminding me
SA/Incest dragons:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504203622/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/20921693
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504203940/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/22015298
DID dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504204314/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/15874538
ADHD dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504205025/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/20757600
Stalker dragon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240504205124/https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/25082735
Thanks for providing the proof. Oh. man, this creeps me out. I never understood why people were so up in arms over this user before from being a bit sloppy with auctions, but now I understand why.
As someone who also probably has some edgy and problematic lore left in my dragon bios from when I wrote it down 10 years ago, it's easy to forget about lol. I don't have a habit of rereading my dragon's bios, and I bet they don't either what with all those broken image links.
i hate people like you tbh
im someone who struggles with art, and is also trying a lot of different styles to find one i like. but my anatomy, linework, etc can get kind of fucked up, because i dont know shit about fuck, but in some styles i look competent
and lately when i post my art on sites, people get nasty at me and either talk behind my back about how im using ai, or directly confront me and say im using it even if i explain that no, im not
so, thanks to people who jump the gun on saying everything is ai, a real actual artist like me cant even post their art anymore because it isnt good enough for you people to believe a human made it. thanks
im someone who struggles with art, and is also trying a lot of different styles to find one i like. but my anatomy, linework, etc can get kind of fucked up, because i dont know shit about fuck, but in some styles i look competent
and lately when i post my art on sites, people get nasty at me and either talk behind my back about how im using ai, or directly confront me and say im using it even if i explain that no, im not
so, thanks to people who jump the gun on saying everything is ai, a real actual artist like me cant even post their art anymore because it isnt good enough for you people to believe a human made it. thanks
There is a clear difference between art that is clearly an artist trying a different style and art that is evidently AI art. I am an artist as well and my style is inconsistent because I like to try new things or just am unhappy with how I draw in general. That being said, you can tell that my art is still my own rather than me just suddenly posting AI art. Why you may ask? Because I don't draw like AI with the weird mistakes that AI makes; such as the bottom of the outfit in the dragon's bio. The weird lines clearly look to be AI because the AI wasn't smart enough to complete the outfit, it was just copying other art and mashing it together. There is a difference, don't just assume people are saying you can't try different styles. That is not what this is at all.
Nayrt
OP is not "jumping the gun." The mistakes in the above example were obviously not made by inexperience. It's AI. The gold V detail at the bottom isn't even a straight line, it's broken in the middle for no reason.
OP is not "jumping the gun." The mistakes in the above example were obviously not made by inexperience. It's AI. The gold V detail at the bottom isn't even a straight line, it's broken in the middle for no reason.
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