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I'm in a server with a vent channel and I think the only reason it works okay is because you're not allowed to talk about anything more serious than day-to-day frustrations. so you can complain about waking up to find your dog puked everywhere, but not really heavy-duty stuff. which is how it should be imo
AYRT
partially; you owe it to your mods, too, and the community members who follow the rules. rules are just words, and they are very easy to ignore or forget about in the moment of poor mental health. we had a similar rule among others, locked down the channel behind a role that mods had to apply manually to an account after the user DMed one with a small summary of the rules in their own words (to make sure they read the rules, and also to make sure people weren't just stumbling into the vent channel), and even enforced a 5 minute slowmode on it to give people time to think about what they were going to say and prevent spam. did not stop the occasional bombshell.
tl;dr: it takes a village to keep a village from burning down.
partially; you owe it to your mods, too, and the community members who follow the rules. rules are just words, and they are very easy to ignore or forget about in the moment of poor mental health. we had a similar rule among others, locked down the channel behind a role that mods had to apply manually to an account after the user DMed one with a small summary of the rules in their own words (to make sure they read the rules, and also to make sure people weren't just stumbling into the vent channel), and even enforced a 5 minute slowmode on it to give people time to think about what they were going to say and prevent spam. did not stop the occasional bombshell.
tl;dr: it takes a village to keep a village from burning down.
it's insane how many dodges I've gotten in coli this past week
🤝 I hope you at least get some good drops to make up for it
What's tough for me as a newbie admin is that I had never encountered this venting obsession behavior before. So my first impulse was to give it space and console the person venting extremely heavy topics. I think a lot of people's first impulse are the same.
At the end of the day, I think rules are necessary because of the fact that these online spaces arent actually communities. Rules should keep venting to every day things. And while people (or maybe just people like me) respond with sympathy, the sympathy isnt real unless you know the person. I've had a person I helped during these vent sessions turn on me because when they realized I was assisting only out of obligation, they got even more upset. But I don't know them and can't magically manifest feelings out of nothing. Even tho I wanted to help.
At the end of the day, I think rules are necessary because of the fact that these online spaces arent actually communities. Rules should keep venting to every day things. And while people (or maybe just people like me) respond with sympathy, the sympathy isnt real unless you know the person. I've had a person I helped during these vent sessions turn on me because when they realized I was assisting only out of obligation, they got even more upset. But I don't know them and can't magically manifest feelings out of nothing. Even tho I wanted to help.
AYRT
you're completely right! rules are very necessary, especially for tense spaces like a vent channel, and even moreso when young teens are possibly added to the mix. the part that rules plays relies on the community working together, however, in the roles that they play. community members can ping or DM mods when something comes up, and mods can follow through to make sure that the space is following community rules for everyone while offering guidance where they can. rules work when everyone works together.
and this follows into your next point: it's not just you who jumps to helping. it's a completely normal reaction to seeing someone else in distress even when you don't know them. you might not be able to completely sympathize with a person you don't know, but you *can* genuinely empathize simply because you're both human, and you can reasonably understand that the feelings they're having aren't pleasant/feelings you'd want to experience similarly. that's usually where these situations start to fall apart and rules go by the wayside- people often jump immediately to help first and forget the rest. this isn't a bad thing, but it can lend to the chaos if it all takes place in the public where everyone can see and interact.
imaginably, you did what you could with what mental bandwidth and experience you had. we're not always equipped to deal with that kind of situation coming out of nowhere, from people who we don't know well enough to give the help they need. they were in a vulnerable place, probably dealing with things out of your wheelhouse. it sucks, but they are responsible for their feelings and expressions. the best you can do is your best.
you're completely right! rules are very necessary, especially for tense spaces like a vent channel, and even moreso when young teens are possibly added to the mix. the part that rules plays relies on the community working together, however, in the roles that they play. community members can ping or DM mods when something comes up, and mods can follow through to make sure that the space is following community rules for everyone while offering guidance where they can. rules work when everyone works together.
and this follows into your next point: it's not just you who jumps to helping. it's a completely normal reaction to seeing someone else in distress even when you don't know them. you might not be able to completely sympathize with a person you don't know, but you *can* genuinely empathize simply because you're both human, and you can reasonably understand that the feelings they're having aren't pleasant/feelings you'd want to experience similarly. that's usually where these situations start to fall apart and rules go by the wayside- people often jump immediately to help first and forget the rest. this isn't a bad thing, but it can lend to the chaos if it all takes place in the public where everyone can see and interact.
imaginably, you did what you could with what mental bandwidth and experience you had. we're not always equipped to deal with that kind of situation coming out of nowhere, from people who we don't know well enough to give the help they need. they were in a vulnerable place, probably dealing with things out of your wheelhouse. it sucks, but they are responsible for their feelings and expressions. the best you can do is your best.
Can someone explain why you can't make 13+ rated zombie themed skins for hatchlings?
I'm so so glad that they are cracking down on the threat of hatchling skins incorporating pedophilia or child **** themes. But the rule about zombie dragons didn't really make much sense when this is a pg-rated site.
I'm so so glad that they are cracking down on the threat of hatchling skins incorporating pedophilia or child **** themes. But the rule about zombie dragons didn't really make much sense when this is a pg-rated site.
How many dead/undead babies have you seen on pg sites?
staff once again horribly fumbled the wording on the new geuidelines, i can already predict this one being angel names rules 2: the electric boogaloo
"hatchlings can't have scars" literally 1984. i can kinda get what they're coming from but also kids get scars from all sorts of things, most of them in no way some sort of horrible traumatic scenario
"no lolita dresses allowed" i have two theories: 1) staff is thinking of the book lolita in this 2) (the much, much funnier one) they meant "loli"
which is, again, very much understandable, but it would be *really* fucking funny if staff accidentally banned all frilly dresses for hatchlings.
idk why is it so hard for them to be direct about their rules, they could've just reworded the adult themes paragraph in the faq without new additions. there's no need to tip-toe around the sex word that much, i don't think that the 13yos on the website are going to get mentally scarred from seeing it
"hatchlings can't have scars" literally 1984. i can kinda get what they're coming from but also kids get scars from all sorts of things, most of them in no way some sort of horrible traumatic scenario
"no lolita dresses allowed" i have two theories: 1) staff is thinking of the book lolita in this 2) (the much, much funnier one) they meant "loli"
which is, again, very much understandable, but it would be *really* fucking funny if staff accidentally banned all frilly dresses for hatchlings.
idk why is it so hard for them to be direct about their rules, they could've just reworded the adult themes paragraph in the faq without new additions. there's no need to tip-toe around the sex word that much, i don't think that the 13yos on the website are going to get mentally scarred from seeing it
I'm thinking they don't want like aborted fetus zombies or something outlandish like that.
Well yea that would be an outlandish example that would be a no-no, but not all undead baby dragons are going to have that theme.
https://www.chickensmoothie.com/archive/2009/Halloween/Pony
chicken smoothie has a literal roadkill pet i think FR users can handle zombie babies just fine
chicken smoothie has a literal roadkill pet i think FR users can handle zombie babies just fine
yeah but you forget it is the website of the FR devs and if they don't want zombie baby dragons on their site you have to accept that
i am not a dickrider of the devs but its their site, their rules, if you dont like them you either accept the rules they laid out for you, or you look on another site for your dragon fix
if the chickensmoothie devs think it is okay to have zombie pets on their site that is their decision, just the same as the devs of FR have decided to not have zombie baby dragons
i am not a dickrider of the devs but its their site, their rules, if you dont like them you either accept the rules they laid out for you, or you look on another site for your dragon fix
if the chickensmoothie devs think it is okay to have zombie pets on their site that is their decision, just the same as the devs of FR have decided to not have zombie baby dragons
nayrt
they were asked about zombie babies in other websites so they brought up other websites. it’s not weird of them to mention CS if that’s where the convo is going
they were asked about zombie babies in other websites so they brought up other websites. it’s not weird of them to mention CS if that’s where the convo is going
I know Staff has their reasons for limiting the hatchling festival winners to only 2 artists, but considering their history of choosing repeat winners every month I don't think that this is a good idea. It's only going to make the community lash out at them more if they pick the same artist when they have such a severly limited pool of winners. Especially considering this is something people have asked them to release for years and are so excited to finally get. They should really raise the number of winners.
I'm guessing the number of louder "this is too niche, not everyone has/wants/likes eternal youths, no hatchling fest entries plz" opinions factored into the decision and this is supposed to be the compromise.
I guess it will really come down to how many actually get entered and whether or not they take off? Since they're also expanding the winners again... there's possibility for youths to get a winners expansion in the future too?
I guess it will really come down to how many actually get entered and whether or not they take off? Since they're also expanding the winners again... there's possibility for youths to get a winners expansion in the future too?
multiple people have asked about the lolita thing on the forums now and gotten locked by aeq with a generic "go to contact us about it not here", which means it'll probably never be addressed lol
i find it wacky to ban light scarring (i have tons of childhood scars still), but i can certainly understand undead child dragons could be a big mental tax on the staff who'd have to sift through them on a daily basis as a job. there's studies and interviews regarding content moderator work and its severe impact on mental health, so it's not just about the users who'd see it, but also the staff who get jumped by it in their queue and can't just content block it because it's their job.
"literally 1984" alright drama queen
This is (unfortunately) probably part of the logic behind the rules… I’m sure 99% of the user base would probably be normal about hatchling skins/fine with less strict policies, but staff has to account for the very small % who are going to push boundaries, intentionally or not.
I don’t really have an issue with the policy, personally. It’s definitely a bit limiting, but I understand staff wanting to prevent harm both to users AND the folks who have to moderate/approve skins.
I don’t really have an issue with the policy, personally. It’s definitely a bit limiting, but I understand staff wanting to prevent harm both to users AND the folks who have to moderate/approve skins.
The "can't adultify permababies" is such a weird rule given an eternal youth dragon can have offspring using normal site mechanics. None of the skins on FR can be sexual anyway so what are they scared of?
They really need to have someone proofread these kinds of updates before opening their mouths about it. How are they going know how to spot lolisho if they don't even use the word lolita right? I don't see how it is so hard to say: "You are not allowed to submit skins that are considered in any way to sexualize minors."
I especially don't entrust staff to know how to differentiate with this kind of stuff considering someone's accents with traditional Korean clothes were initially denied for being religious because whichever staff member wrongly assumed the outfits were Amish/Mennonite or something or other:
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/skin/1199521/1132#post_56660664
I especially don't entrust staff to know how to differentiate with this kind of stuff considering someone's accents with traditional Korean clothes were initially denied for being religious because whichever staff member wrongly assumed the outfits were Amish/Mennonite or something or other:
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/skin/1199521/1132#post_56660664
I think limiting the number of fest hatchie skins is good mainly because of the only eternal youth dragons can wear them.
if they had figured out a way to "oh you can equip to a regular hatchie and it unequips at adulthood" then yeah let's place fest skins on everyone.
if they had figured out a way to "oh you can equip to a regular hatchie and it unequips at adulthood" then yeah let's place fest skins on everyone.
so going by the words initially, the skin was eventually accepted? i think it's unreasonable to expect staff to be consciously aware and able to identify these things. they flagged the skin as potentially containing religious content, and the artist clarified. no harm?
not sure of staff's intentions but a lot of these rules seem to me as more "better safe than sorry" in how much broader they are. it sucks but i can understand why. if anyone was around for early furvilla i think they might understand too. there are just a lot of really bad faith actors when it comes to pet sims, furry/furry adjacent content and characters who are depicted as children
i think staff knows and acknowledges that most FR players are normal and do not have bad intentions. it sucks but i do think some of these rules are for the better especially when it comes to this topic. although i can agree they could be worded better or go into more detail about what exactly is defined as "lolita" etc
not sure of staff's intentions but a lot of these rules seem to me as more "better safe than sorry" in how much broader they are. it sucks but i can understand why. if anyone was around for early furvilla i think they might understand too. there are just a lot of really bad faith actors when it comes to pet sims, furry/furry adjacent content and characters who are depicted as children
i think staff knows and acknowledges that most FR players are normal and do not have bad intentions. it sucks but i do think some of these rules are for the better especially when it comes to this topic. although i can agree they could be worded better or go into more detail about what exactly is defined as "lolita" etc
Not looking forward to the reaction if/when those two hatchling skins aren't for the flight's breeds.
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