Totally agree with this take tbh. More often than not I find the community in the light flight discord exhausting. It skews younger with people who clearly have no idea how to act socially and scold people for saying perfectly normal, everyday things because they live in this chronically online bubble. The discord also feels like a revolving door, it can't keep a consistent community which says a lot and I'm sure results in that feeling of chilliness you discussed. It's a real problem because the discord servers are where most of the community is nowadays, probably for the worse.
Your "revolving door" comment about sums it up, yeh. I remember back in ye olden days when there were pretty consistently the same people chiming in, and people stuck around long enough that you could make friends with them. It felt like there were adults there, that were funny and engaged. It feels like half the population now is under 17 (or at least acts like it) and it is very draining to try and keep a conversation going. The modmins are doing what they can it seems like, but really, the ship has been slowly sinking since the move from the old server. I almost miss the days when there were complaints that the server was "cliquey", because at least then people regularly talked. It feels like every other person that talks is a new face that will hang around for, at most, a few days. I am unsure how this could be remedied, really. Even remaking the server would just draw the same crowd of teenagers. I feel Light as a flight skews older but it does not seem this way at all, looking at the discord. Before people say "Be the change you want to see!", I have tried and I am tired. Many of us have. There is no meaningful discussion anymore, no server etiquette (people post over one another, especially in dragon share channels. There are three of these channels.), it really is dying and I for one am sad, knowing how it used to be. It feels there is no place for community anymore.
Absolutely agree. It's so difficult to hold a conversation, people constantly talk over each other and any time you get something of substance going someone jumps in with something irrelevant because they can't wait and derail the conversation. 0 social etiquette. I agree with you that there's this influx of people who show up for a few days and then disappear. Even worse IMO is the several people who will take over conversations because they show up once a month and think it needs to be announced every time they look at the discord.
It really does feel like a void people dump whatever comes to mind in, then dip. It does seem like the mods are trying, but it's like using buckets when a flood is coming in. Ultimately, makes no difference. I feel I've only made one genuine relationship out of the discord in the time I've been there, and they're great, but you'd think there'd be room to form more relationships beyond superficiality. There just isn't.
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Re: Light flight discord mods stepping down again
(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 05:53 am (UTC)(link)Totally agree with this take tbh. More often than not I find the community in the light flight discord exhausting. It skews younger with people who clearly have no idea how to act socially and scold people for saying perfectly normal, everyday things because they live in this chronically online bubble. The discord also feels like a revolving door, it can't keep a consistent community which says a lot and I'm sure results in that feeling of chilliness you discussed. It's a real problem because the discord servers are where most of the community is nowadays, probably for the worse.
Re: Light flight discord mods stepping down again
(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 07:11 am (UTC)(link)Your "revolving door" comment about sums it up, yeh. I remember back in ye olden days when there were pretty consistently the same people chiming in, and people stuck around long enough that you could make friends with them. It felt like there were adults there, that were funny and engaged. It feels like half the population now is under 17 (or at least acts like it) and it is very draining to try and keep a conversation going.
The modmins are doing what they can it seems like, but really, the ship has been slowly sinking since the move from the old server. I almost miss the days when there were complaints that the server was "cliquey", because at least then people regularly talked. It feels like every other person that talks is a new face that will hang around for, at most, a few days.
I am unsure how this could be remedied, really. Even remaking the server would just draw the same crowd of teenagers. I feel Light as a flight skews older but it does not seem this way at all, looking at the discord.
Before people say "Be the change you want to see!", I have tried and I am tired. Many of us have. There is no meaningful discussion anymore, no server etiquette (people post over one another, especially in dragon share channels. There are three of these channels.), it really is dying and I for one am sad, knowing how it used to be. It feels there is no place for community anymore.
Re: Light flight discord mods stepping down again
(Anonymous) 2024-04-26 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)Absolutely agree. It's so difficult to hold a conversation, people constantly talk over each other and any time you get something of substance going someone jumps in with something irrelevant because they can't wait and derail the conversation. 0 social etiquette. I agree with you that there's this influx of people who show up for a few days and then disappear. Even worse IMO is the several people who will take over conversations because they show up once a month and think it needs to be announced every time they look at the discord.
It really does feel like a void people dump whatever comes to mind in, then dip. It does seem like the mods are trying, but it's like using buckets when a flood is coming in. Ultimately, makes no difference. I feel I've only made one genuine relationship out of the discord in the time I've been there, and they're great, but you'd think there'd be room to form more relationships beyond superficiality. There just isn't.