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An important update:

Due to a specific person being a complete child, comments are going to be screened by default.

This is only temporary, and I apologize for the inconvenience- this is going to be a pain in the ass for me, too, but multiple people have come forward about fears of doxxing, and this is the only way to make sure any doxxing is contained.

(This basically will force the doxxer to make a DW account to post any doxxing attempts unscreened, and will let me more reliably report them to DW staff/authorities.)

Again, I apologize, and will be working to unscreen comments as fast as possible, but I'm only one person.

(Vasemod has had some personal issues come up, so I am the only mod atm. Please bear with me until this bit of annoyance has passed.)

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Re: drama/vent post on tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

1. It seems like they just needed a dragon with those colors and TheWormwood has the mate (seems to be why they contacted TheOfficialLemon about it in the first place) and could breed an exact duplicate with it. I guess TheOfficialLemon was assuming that TheWormwood was closing the deal in good faith, but they could’ve easily avoided this whole thing by just ignoring their PM request.

2. No idea why they didn’t message them earlier and really that’s on TheOfficialLemon here I’d agree. But also I’d expect someone coming in with good faith who has received their end of the deal to actually follow up on it instead of having the other person badger them? Idk, it feels extremely gross to have to chase down someone for something, even if you’re entitled to it as agreed earlier so I could see why they’d put off contacting. As someone who used to play another petsite with IOU-type deals being common due to the nature of trading, doing that feels like an awful debt-collector job lol. They should’ve involved staff after contacting them ASAP and receiving no response but I don’t know if they even know of the last part of the dragon ownership rule. It seemed like a clearcut case of a bad faith trade at that point from the PMs shown.

3. Afaik the things in the same notifications bell as CRs include trading post alerts, AH listings (these 2 are pinned to the top), profile comments, forum subscriptions along with forum pings. It could be possible that they have forum subs clogging up their notifs and/or pings from snipped pinglists which both don’t show up in profile but idk, I’m not them. Unlike PMs which only show up as read once you click into a specific PM, notifs stop showing up as unread once you click the bell. I don’t think CRs are one of the notifs that get pinned to the top either but I could be wrong. CRs are doodoo anyway and I don’t understand why you wouldn’t just 1t PA something you were gonna put in a 1-way CR, especially something that you’re rushing to get out of your lair.

Can’t really say anything conclusive until we got TheWormwood’s side of the story but it looks like a case of helping someone out and getting shat on right now. I do wonder if this is the only person TheWormwood did this to. They run a hatchery that have a number of breeding pairs and people on their pinglists, although I don’t know if theirs is considered popular as far as hatcheries go. I wouldn’t be surprised if they contacted a number of people for pairs like that and a few opted for having a baby in the future instead of money.

Re: drama/vent post on tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

I really do not think that this would or should be considered a bad faith trade.

Staff have always been very clear and consistent that your ownership of a dragon ends the second it leaves your account. Lemon asked for a non tangible payment that could only be provided once the dragon left their account. They no longer had control over whether or not that dragon was bred. If Lemon wanted guaranteed reimbursement for this dragon, they should have gone about it in the appropriate ways.

It would be ridiculous for staff to get involved and potentially punish Wormwood. Even if the PMs are on site I would be very surprised if they responded to Lemon in any other way besides 'once a dragon leaves your account it is no longer yours'.

It sucks when you lose dragons because of nest rentals or dragon lending, but if you're going to do these things you need to accept that staff have been very clear that they won't intervene.

Re: drama/vent post on tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

Well, staff does have it in the books that taking dragons from rescues and the like repeatedly as fodder is a punishable offense for poor faith trading even though the dragon left your account. The "not on your account, not your dragon" rule has wiggle room. I don't know if they'd wiggle on this, but there is written in the rules one area of wiggle.

In this case, everyone sucks, and this dude needs to shut up though.