anonrerising | Damnit, Arcanist

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I don't think you have much of a place to say anything when you think that AIs were not skilled enough to create backgrounds like this in 2020/2021.

The proof of some of this being brushes is interesting, though. Especially when I know that LW moderators have accused other artists of using "copyrighted" brushes, but somehow Rai's multiple instances of rule breaking CAs are okay? It's funky that LW appears to protect artists like Rai and are causing legitimate artists who aren't stealing anything anytime are leaving to go back to FR.

It's not at all suspicious to anyone here that a lot of people are talking about how they reported Rai's very clear examples of stolen art, and how the staff haven't done anything in almost a month?

That's scary the mods are going after people using brushes. Can you cite the examples for this? Just for my own reference. I thought of starting up an art stop, I have some PS brushes, and don't want to deal with that especially if there are double standards.

The only one I can think of is someone had drawn leaves in such a way it looked like they just used a brush (they said they drew it all themselves but I could see how the staff may have thought it was a brush) and since the whole CA was the leaves that may be what they are trying to avoid, using *only* premade brushes in ca. which is understandable. On another site I'm on where users can do art things to submit, they want to avoid the use of premade brushes/sticker brushes cause it looks too flat, but I use a brush for like stars and speckles which is fine. I haven't seen any other issues, but I haven't been as active in the CA community the past few days due to irl stuff. So I don't think it's a case of "never ever ever use brushes" it may be a case of "don't make the thing entirely out of brushes" (someone correct me if there are other examples of this, I only know the one issue with stamp brushes)

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The artist that I know it happened to was https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/448574

because they talked about it in an FR server. Ambulocetus is a really talented artist and they made a few CAs that do not look like only brush work. I'm inclined to believe them with how sketchy LW has been.

I found the post on the ca support thread. The repeated pattern of the leaves was why it was sent to the higher ups if I'm reading what Quiche said right. They were checking if it was fine or not for brushes with repeated patterns since there's a rule against repeating patterns(why that would need to be clarified if they already have a rule against repeated patterns in general idk). Whether a brush was used for the ca or not it was probably the best example they had at the time to clarify. I remember it being talked about in lorwolves ca channel but I went to find it again and the artists messages were gone so I've only got everyone else's messages and not the artists to reread. I'm not saying the used a brush or not, but I remember the CA in question and I can see why the staff may have thought it was a brush. It wouldn't have been the first time I've questioned if someone used a brush or not (most of the time it's they drew it once and then copy pasted which has the unfortunate side affect of looking like a brush, which the artist said they made 1 layer and copy and pasted it)

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Found the thing, Quiche was getting clarification on if they allow brushes with repeating patterns because there's a rule about repeating patterns. So even if the person didn't use a brush it may have also been because of the repeated pattern of the leads (I believe the artist said they drew one layer and then duplicated it to get the affect? So it may have been the repeating pattern and the opportunity to ask about brushes to the higher ups was used. Idk)

The widely available image generators accessible to your average person absolutely weren't advanced enough to make these kinds of images in 2020. The best you could get would be Dall-E (not Dall-E 2, which released in 2022 and was the first publicly available image generator that could meet the standard of those backgrounds)

Here's an article from 2020 showing advanced image generation at the time in a photorealistic style https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/09/25/1008921/ai-allen-institute-generates-images-from-captions/

And here's one from 2021 showing Dall-E's illustrations https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55559463

They're absolutely nothing like Rai's backgrounds. Sure, they could've had access to an extremely advanced, hidden-from-the-world image generation model the likes of which wouldn't be seen for years... but come on. This is much more easily explained by just... stylization, art errors, visual shortcuts. Focus on the accusations with actual weight here, the tracing.

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And it's well known that Midjourney and Stability AI directly stole -and is currently still stealing from- data sets from deviantart. If anything I'd say it's just as likely that the AI is copying this person's work.

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Did they actually trace anything? I keep hearing this but I've yet to see any proof.

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