Oh you mean the server that all that shit went down in when all of the mods and myself were... asleep? So, with that there were actually two servers, mine was the Bone Zone and idk the name of the other, but the second was made when the people were booted *due* to said racism. I was never in the second server, so I only know what happened as much as y'all do. ( As in I only have those screenshots to go off of ) Literally the proof you have of me in there is saying "did you just say the n bomb? gtfo" and then booting the person. I am not in contact with anyone from that second server and severed ties immediately. Also, the bone zone was made originally for taxidermy and fr was just a side part. There was a suggestion that a salt channel be made and within one night it went to shit and idfk how, like you give people one channel and think they'll have basic human decency and know not to y'know... be racist and transphobic inherently, but apparently not.
TLDR : First server ( Bone Zone ) mods were asleep when the n-bombs and shit happened and did not take immediate action due to that, upon waking up and seeing that we banned everyone involved. Banned people made a second server to be racist and whatever. ( Didn't even know of the second server until the screenshots were posted ) Somehow everyone in the bone zone was drug into this when in reality it was the second server that was filled with hate the entire time. Action was taken on the bone zone's part as soon as it could be.
I've explained this shit countless times and cleared my name of anything that could even remotely associate myself with that second server.
i've ran several discord communities around flightrising and not *once* did i have several surprise racists in my server that drop the n bomb ~randomly~ while i was sleeping.
i think the point here is that you're the common denominator for a lot of sketchy and bad shit. you can't stop engrossing yourself in drama and always just double down to defend yourself ad nauseam any time someone mentions you.
I literally never knew they were racist / transphobic until they pulled that stunt. I don't *want* to be around racists or transphobes, I want to be as far away as can be from them like anyone would.
Just because you haven't had it happen to you doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. Your experience is not universal.
Anyways, I've cleared my name and multiple other's of that drama that the entire bone zone was drug into years ago. I swear we have this conversation at least once a year for some reason.
My guy, unless you think *denouncing being racist* is a bad thing, seeing as that's literally all that's shown of me in those screenshots, then idk what to say. That second server is not mine and I have zero part in it. The second server is where everything really went to shit.
i'll tell you exactly why: you have zero self reflection
every time you "clear your name" it's a whole lot of 'oh well you see this wasn't MY fault AT ALL' and not a lot of 'you're right, i need to reexamine how i do x,y,z"
these same points come up because you're exactly the same!! nothing has changed!! you get involved with groups that oops! they're a bunch of racists! and then you move on to more groups filled with suspicious people and somehow you're always the one of the ringleaders. oops hehe my dragon porn server needs to see your sensitive and personal data ;)))
you're always at the face of drama, always trying to stick your nose in where it doesn't belong
seriously. log off. get help. this will only keep happening if you continue to put in zero effort
I'm pretty sure they added that after the whole ordeal. ( As in after being kicked from the server. ) But don't quote me on that exact timeline ( as in it could've been before the drama went down or after being kicked initially ), however I do know they did not have it in their bio as long as they were in the bone zone.
why are you so shocked to be surrounded by transphobes when you literally created and moderated a subreddit dedicated to mocking trans people you dislike?
dakkokki's reddit account's last post was a year ago so it's not like this is some old abandoned account or anything like that. i did some digging because i had a feeling dakkokki had more art theft they were hiding but wasn't expecting this. the subreddit has wonderful post flairs like "how the hell did this person get hormones" and "how do these people exist??" for posts mocking people experiencing forms of transphobia or just talking about their experience being trans.
managing online spaces isn't easy, i do understand that. ive been in FR discord groups where ONE person says something terrible and gets booted; that's an unfortunate reality that occasionally happens when you toss a bunch of strangers together. however, the fact that this space had around a DOZEN people chomping at the bit to say the n-word and other obscenities is unreal. you need to cultivate a VERY specific kind of environment that brings those kinds of people in.
it's anecdotal evidence but i've run a server with a revolving door of unvetted newbies for years and absolutely none of them ever dropped slurs, we just don't look friendly to that type thankfully, they don't even bother to drive by troll
thank you this is exactly what i was trying to convey
like, if it was one person? who just randomly went off the deep end yeah i'd understand that much more as i've definitely had to deal with situations like that. where a person wasn't who i thought they were
but a group?? this many people?? they found their way to that server and felt comfortable enough to talk like that *for a reason*
It was originally just one person that said it in the bone zone if I recall correctly. Others followed into the second server ( which I will once again state I have no idea what happened in there as much as the next person does, as I have only seen those screenshots ) after Denim was kicked and then they started being actively bigoted. Nobody showed any of this behavior until that moment, we were all there to talk about bones because plague discord wouldn't let us post pictures of bones.
I'm sorry that I'm not a psychic and don't know if someone is going to be eager to drop the hard r at the drop of a hat when given a salt channel and that my mods and I dare to sleep. If I had known I wouldn't have let them in in the first place.
As for the other times, most of the time the shit isn't even my idea ( such as the ID thing, that one was a suggestion that the mod team discussed in depth - the pros and cons - before implementing. Not to mention, we're trying to figure out an alternative method that doesn't require us to ID people in the first place. )
if the ID thing wasn't your idea then why did you so consistently and aggressively defend it on both arr and smr? really weird that the post on smr was also deleted hmmm strange 🤔🤔🤔🤔
remember all those people who were trying to explain that even though you thought the way you were doing it was safe, it wasn't? and remember how you refused to listen and insisted that you were doing nothing wrong?
isn't it funny how you can't admit you were wrong and have to constantly rewrite history?
Because it's *my* server? I will defend my server and my staff's decisions - within reason ofc, if they do something really shitty that's different - And I will state that time and time again I asked for alternative methods that could work that weren't just "trust me bro :)" and I was never given any that weren't just that. I've been looking time and time again for an alternative method to make sure no minors get in because we all know it can and will happen, because gosh it's almost like kids lie about their age to get into things they shouldn't or something.
I haven't rewritten history as far as I know, as I've stated this information in the past about the IDing being a suggestion in the first place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
asking for people's real life IDs with none of your staff or yourself being trained or having ANY knowledge about how to safely process and store that information
the fact that you think this is defendable and not shitty enough to not blindly defend, says a lot
you have not changed. you will only ever find yourself in this same cycle of obsessively defending yourself to people who don't believe you because you never, never, never admit fault or do any kind of self introspection.
you can joke and deflect all you want that this doesn't live rent free in your head. you can lie to us all you want that you're happy with your life, that you really don't mind stalking ARR to respond as soon as they mention me, you're just seepy and don't have any manga to read!! uwu
you can lie to us, but you can't lie to yourself. and trying to is only going to make things worse for you. you think about this all day, don't you?
"And I will state that time and time again I asked for alternative methods that could work that weren't just "trust me bro :)" and I was never given any that weren't just that."
... So, our concerns about you guys being safe with people's IDs isn't another example of "trust me bro"? Since y'know, we'd be trusting you guys to not get your accounts hacked and have all that stolen/taken advantage of or keep or even end up using peoples personal data... Wait hold on lemme do that annoying shit you do with that shrug emoji ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't think you're in good faith looking for alternative methods. You were given a ton on a silver platter way back when the whole ID drama first went down. I think you're just an ignorant and stubborn sack of shit.
Go take a nap gramps, a little time off the computer would do you some good.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)TLDR : First server ( Bone Zone ) mods were asleep when the n-bombs and shit happened and did not take immediate action due to that, upon waking up and seeing that we banned everyone involved. Banned people made a second server to be racist and whatever. ( Didn't even know of the second server until the screenshots were posted ) Somehow everyone in the bone zone was drug into this when in reality it was the second server that was filled with hate the entire time. Action was taken on the bone zone's part as soon as it could be.
I've explained this shit countless times and cleared my name of anything that could even remotely associate myself with that second server.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)i've ran several discord communities around flightrising and not *once* did i have several surprise racists in my server that drop the n bomb ~randomly~ while i was sleeping.
i think the point here is that you're the common denominator for a lot of sketchy and bad shit. you can't stop engrossing yourself in drama and always just double down to defend yourself ad nauseam any time someone mentions you.
you are harming no one but yourself
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)Just because you haven't had it happen to you doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. Your experience is not universal.
Anyways, I've cleared my name and multiple other's of that drama that the entire bone zone was drug into years ago. I swear we have this conversation at least once a year for some reason.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)i'll tell you exactly why: you have zero self reflection
every time you "clear your name" it's a whole lot of 'oh well you see this wasn't MY fault AT ALL' and not a lot of 'you're right, i need to reexamine how i do x,y,z"
these same points come up because you're exactly the same!! nothing has changed!! you get involved with groups that oops! they're a bunch of racists! and then you move on to more groups filled with suspicious people and somehow you're always the one of the ringleaders. oops hehe my dragon porn server needs to see your sensitive and personal data ;)))
you're always at the face of drama, always trying to stick your nose in where it doesn't belong
seriously. log off. get help. this will only keep happening if you continue to put in zero effort
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 04:03 am (UTC)(link)dakkokki's reddit account's last post was a year ago so it's not like this is some old abandoned account or anything like that. i did some digging because i had a feeling dakkokki had more art theft they were hiding but wasn't expecting this. the subreddit has wonderful post flairs like "how the hell did this person get hormones" and "how do these people exist??" for posts mocking people experiencing forms of transphobia or just talking about their experience being trans.
https://imgur.com/a/vqIvbz3
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 04:07 am (UTC)(link)oh boy.
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I am going to freeze this because I know it'll devolve otherwise, but leaving it up for prosperity.
In all sincerity:
Fuck you, Dakk. Go play with the TERFs, since you like drinking their koolaid.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)managing online spaces isn't easy, i do understand that. ive been in FR discord groups where ONE person says something terrible and gets booted; that's an unfortunate reality that occasionally happens when you toss a bunch of strangers together. however, the fact that this space had around a DOZEN people chomping at the bit to say the n-word and other obscenities is unreal. you need to cultivate a VERY specific kind of environment that brings those kinds of people in.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)it's anecdotal evidence but i've run a server with a revolving door of unvetted newbies for years and absolutely none of them ever dropped slurs, we just don't look friendly to that type thankfully, they don't even bother to drive by troll
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)thank you this is exactly what i was trying to convey
like, if it was one person? who just randomly went off the deep end yeah i'd understand that much more as i've definitely had to deal with situations like that. where a person wasn't who i thought they were
but a group?? this many people?? they found their way to that server and felt comfortable enough to talk like that *for a reason*
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)again it's not just this one situation. it's the 50 million other times you were also the center of some flightrising drama
ever heard of occam's razor?
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)As for the other times, most of the time the shit isn't even my idea ( such as the ID thing, that one was a suggestion that the mod team discussed in depth - the pros and cons - before implementing. Not to mention, we're trying to figure out an alternative method that doesn't require us to ID people in the first place. )
For your third statement, no.
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)remember all those people who were trying to explain that even though you thought the way you were doing it was safe, it wasn't? and remember how you refused to listen and insisted that you were doing nothing wrong?
isn't it funny how you can't admit you were wrong and have to constantly rewrite history?
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)I haven't rewritten history as far as I know, as I've stated this information in the past about the IDing being a suggestion in the first place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)the fact that you think this is defendable and not shitty enough to not blindly defend, says a lot
you have not changed. you will only ever find yourself in this same cycle of obsessively defending yourself to people who don't believe you because you never, never, never admit fault or do any kind of self introspection.
you can joke and deflect all you want that this doesn't live rent free in your head. you can lie to us all you want that you're happy with your life, that you really don't mind stalking ARR to respond as soon as they mention me, you're just seepy and don't have any manga to read!! uwu
you can lie to us, but you can't lie to yourself. and trying to is only going to make things worse for you. you think about this all day, don't you?
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(Anonymous) 2023-05-22 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)... So, our concerns about you guys being safe with people's IDs isn't another example of "trust me bro"? Since y'know, we'd be trusting you guys to not get your accounts hacked and have all that stolen/taken advantage of or keep or even end up using peoples personal data... Wait hold on lemme do that annoying shit you do with that shrug emoji ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't think you're in good faith looking for alternative methods. You were given a ton on a silver platter way back when the whole ID drama first went down. I think you're just an ignorant and stubborn sack of shit.
Go take a nap gramps, a little time off the computer would do you some good.
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