I’ve seen this being posted on SMR, so after a lot of thought, I’ve decided to add some context as to how this got to where it is now. It didn’t start out as harassment, but it became out of control.
This started back when a former friend of mine, Cross, was selling a 1-off triple that I really wanted. I decided to try for it and sell an expensive dragon I had purchased from Cross off the AH just a few months prior to further my savings goal. The sale had never been discussed, the dragon never offered to me for cheap, nor did I ask for a discount. The dragon was worth a bit more than when I had purchased it so I sold it for the new, valued price.
That got me blocked both on FR and Discord without warning.
I figured it was over the flip, but didn’t get a chance to explain it was so I could buy his other dragon. Still, I respected him enough to just leave him be that in hopes he’d come around again and I could say something. He didn’t but that’s fine.
Skip ahead in time: I won a Roundsey dragon. I had a slew of messages from people asking for prices, congratulating me, but one DM stood out: Someone messaged me with screenshots from a server I wasn't in from Cross and his friends.
I typically don't care because that's just the nature of the internet. They can say what they want. That’s their business. I’m not going to drag a previous friend for these things. The “Hope she gets hacked” did get me stressed. I tried to ignore it.
My mistake, apparently, was curating my own space and blocking anyone who was friends with Cross by cross-referencing everyone who was friends with him and another very close friend of his, Sangonomiya- aka Nicole. (It doesn’t do much, but it made me feel at ease.) Those in the server found out they were blocked and became annoyed, from what I heard. Doing this turned the server’s attention toward the idea that someone was leaking screenshots. So they found a scapegoat, another user in the server: Vinid.
Vinid, Cross, and I used to talk a lot in Voice Chats, but with the screenshots, I unfriended them and blocked them on FR as well as the rest of those in the server simply because they were friends with Cross and Sangonomiya. (Jumping the gun, yes, but given that at least one of them wanted my account hacked, I just felt better having blocks up.) Thus, it was a surprise to me when someone that was in the server informed me that Vinid was their new target. They accused Vinid of being the mole. They insisted Vinid was the one telling me what was going on in their toxic server. Despite the fact that she was in the server, I reached out to Vinid to talk about what was going on and try to express my sympathies, but the hatred from the server was just beginning.
Cross left one of the public servers I was in shortly after Vinid was kicked from his server. Coincidentally, that’s when his friends began to get very active after his departure. I was uncomfortable with them around, so I moved my interests to other servers. A couple of days after Vinid was kicked out from the private server, she posted about getting put on a pinglist for something she didn't sign up for.
https://gyazo.com/2c1b1aaa61ef4b44f34256e675a67129 https://anonrerising.dreamwidth.org/5172.html?thread=5100852#cmt5100852 (more screenshots from anon- thank you!)
Then more pinglists started having her username on them. Pings poured in from UMA shops, Hatcheries, Adopt shops, RNG shops, and anything with a self-editing pinglist had her username on it. At least one pinglist so far is permanently locked now because Vinid's user kept getting put on it repeatedly every time it was taken down.
She tried removing her username from pinglists but she would be right back on it within an hour or so. Sometimes she’d notice it right away, sometimes it wouldn’t be until they pinged again.
This has been going on for a month, with Vinid being pinged over 150 times at minimum. Not every list has pinged her but she’s on the lists. Now, fortunately, the forum pings can be turned off so none of them get through to her anymore. However, even if the forum pings get turned off, she’s still getting PAs for UMAs.
While we may not know exactly who or how many people are doing this, thanks to spreadsheet owners looking on the backend of things and other clues found, it's been determined that it's likely one (or more) of the users that attacked me that are now harassing someone who had nothing to do with this situation. Just someone that happened to be in the same space and got picked on to bully.
I didn’t want to name names for either party as I didn’t deem it my place, but with most of those in the private server having different nicknames anyway & the imgur album up, I figured: Well, okay then. Saves me time, lol.
This whole post is just to clarify the situation and give a heads-up: if you run a hatchery, UMA shop, or anything with an editable pinglist, just be careful, you're probably being used as a tool for harassment.
Keep an eye on your spreadsheets, and make sure you note the dates/times Vinid was added to them.
Tl;dr: Namecalling and petty whining turned into harassment on FR
Wow. I knew there was a reason to avoid cross but I didn’t know it was this bad. Didn’t he also brag about spending thousands of dollars that his parents gave him on gems or other currency or something? Someone tell these kids to do their homework and stop harassing others over a game!
funny you’re slinging shit at me when we all know you did RMT (three way trade) for those imp scrolls. ebay auction you won for the previous owner ring a bell?
and for the record, i sleep very well at night knowing that my parents are financially secure and just returned from a europe trip funded by them :)
I'm going to be blunt: You sound at best, psychotic and vindictive here. I think you probably need to back the fuck off, sit down, and take a long look at yourself. Given the opportunity to clarify and give your side, you're accusing the other party of rulebreaking without evidence and harassing them.
I guess you have nothing to say about all the evidence of your server harassing an individual because you're trying to deflect to something completely unrelated? You're only making yourself look worse.
I love when someone's ego gets the better of themselves and they respond very emotionally to a callout made about them. That is definitely the way to go, and accusations without proof against a callout post that did include proof is icing on the cake. That totally makes them look like the better person in this situation. Well done!
hey kid go ahead and quit fr like you said you were gonna the last five times. stop fucking around with people and go spend your parents money travelling the world if you’re so proud of it.
why would anyone pretend to be me? im not that popular, yknow. i would include a photo of the business class airplane food i am currently eating but the plane wifi probably wont permit it.
okay here’s my apology to make myself look better because i care so much.
i apologize sincerely to every retard i have insulted. making fun of disabilities is something to be taken very seriously. i do not take harassment lightly. i will now burn the thousands of dollars of clothes that my parents bought me on this trip to atone for my sins.
you're not racking up more cool points by mentioning your rich mommy and daddy so much in your posts bud. i have rich parents too but i can shut the fuck up about it
i would never harass anybody and i've even made that very clear to the victim of all this privately. the "I'm gonna add u to every skin ever" was a joke made a little more obvious with context.
i even proceeded that message with "i just feel really bad for the artists idk." i would never involve innocent skinmakers with petty drama (that was never even mine to begin with..), though i realize how horribly i look in all the screenshots provided against me and others, and i understand how wanting to defend myself could make me look even worse
https://imgur.com/a/3Y0buu7 [imgur album including context of vinid venting about being added to pinglists publicly in g1 hell]
your only proof of my friendgroup harassing this person was a joke i made in a public server, why would i incriminate myself like that? :sob:
I'll be honest. When a user is complaining about someone else doing that, that joke is exceptionally tone-deaf, and you earned all the suspicion sent your way.
The pinglist harassment is fucked up and I hope the people responsible get brought to justice as soon as possible. I am a bit confused on the first part though, why include shit that you self-admit is just catty behaviour in a private space? You have plenty of material with the actual on-site harassment already, you don't need to pad it up with "petty whining" as you yourself called it.
My thought was that OP wanted to provide context to how things got to the point where they are now. It also goes to show how two-faced/just... weird these people are.
I think I know the server that OP is talking about, and Cross and Vinid were (at least with how they acted towards each other) like close friends in that server, so the context helped me understand how that supposed friendship could turn into Vinid being the subject of harassment from Cross and their friends.
these people suck to say the least but i'd kind of like to hear from vinid themselves on this. their name is already included here anyway, not like they'd have much to lose speaking out on it.
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(frozen comment) Pinglist Harassment
(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)This started back when a former friend of mine, Cross, was selling a 1-off triple that I really wanted. I decided to try for it and sell an expensive dragon I had purchased from Cross off the AH just a few months prior to further my savings goal. The sale had never been discussed, the dragon never offered to me for cheap, nor did I ask for a discount. The dragon was worth a bit more than when I had purchased it so I sold it for the new, valued price.
That got me blocked both on FR and Discord without warning.
I figured it was over the flip, but didn’t get a chance to explain it was so I could buy his other dragon. Still, I respected him enough to just leave him be that in hopes he’d come around again and I could say something. He didn’t but that’s fine.
Skip ahead in time: I won a Roundsey dragon. I had a slew of messages from people asking for prices, congratulating me, but one DM stood out: Someone messaged me with screenshots from a server I wasn't in from Cross and his friends.
https://gyazo.com/93417913592f8d814a980744f106067b
https://gyazo.com/94feb8a30cbcd54f4baf3bad25ca49c0
https://gyazo.com/075067367ec1115523950f865b5ad6bc
https://gyazo.com/f7920db48d869a2d6f7667393c660cbd
I typically don't care because that's just the nature of the internet. They can say what they want. That’s their business. I’m not going to drag a previous friend for these things. The “Hope she gets hacked” did get me stressed. I tried to ignore it.
My mistake, apparently, was curating my own space and blocking anyone who was friends with Cross by cross-referencing everyone who was friends with him and another very close friend of his, Sangonomiya- aka Nicole. (It doesn’t do much, but it made me feel at ease.) Those in the server found out they were blocked and became annoyed, from what I heard. Doing this turned the server’s attention toward the idea that someone was leaking screenshots. So they found a scapegoat, another user in the server: Vinid.
Vinid, Cross, and I used to talk a lot in Voice Chats, but with the screenshots, I unfriended them and blocked them on FR as well as the rest of those in the server simply because they were friends with Cross and Sangonomiya. (Jumping the gun, yes, but given that at least one of them wanted my account hacked, I just felt better having blocks up.) Thus, it was a surprise to me when someone that was in the server informed me that Vinid was their new target. They accused Vinid of being the mole. They insisted Vinid was the one telling me what was going on in their toxic server. Despite the fact that she was in the server, I reached out to Vinid to talk about what was going on and try to express my sympathies, but the hatred from the server was just beginning.
Cross left one of the public servers I was in shortly after Vinid was kicked from his server. Coincidentally, that’s when his friends began to get very active after his departure. I was uncomfortable with them around, so I moved my interests to other servers. A couple of days after Vinid was kicked out from the private server, she posted about getting put on a pinglist for something she didn't sign up for.
https://gyazo.com/2c1b1aaa61ef4b44f34256e675a67129
https://anonrerising.dreamwidth.org/5172.html?thread=5100852#cmt5100852 (more screenshots from anon- thank you!)
Then more pinglists started having her username on them. Pings poured in from UMA shops, Hatcheries, Adopt shops, RNG shops, and anything with a self-editing pinglist had her username on it. At least one pinglist so far is permanently locked now because Vinid's user kept getting put on it repeatedly every time it was taken down.
https://gyazo.com/724d6b95f4213a7962baa68a84a0e1b7
https://gyazo.com/e5fb00eb44fc468550196aafc751c8c4
https://gyazo.com/9c74c4a72e18789a952fc3f3de89684d
https://gyazo.com/4443aa354ad8d4e563f837989ffdb327
https://gyazo.com/435340399fbb70708b6065d9177caf9b
https://gyazo.com/f5b7258855c2c98c8e741037e67101c9
https://gyazo.com/ec1d1ce4b9c2eb13ca49aa774b23ff5f
https://gyazo.com/2b1d1a5448ec25eb6a82ff1337d8089e
She tried removing her username from pinglists but she would be right back on it within an hour or so. Sometimes she’d notice it right away, sometimes it wouldn’t be until they pinged again.
This has been going on for a month, with Vinid being pinged over 150 times at minimum. Not every list has pinged her but she’s on the lists. Now, fortunately, the forum pings can be turned off so none of them get through to her anymore. However, even if the forum pings get turned off, she’s still getting PAs for UMAs.
While we may not know exactly who or how many people are doing this, thanks to spreadsheet owners looking on the backend of things and other clues found, it's been determined that it's likely one (or more) of the users that attacked me that are now harassing someone who had nothing to do with this situation. Just someone that happened to be in the same space and got picked on to bully.
I didn’t want to name names for either party as I didn’t deem it my place, but with most of those in the private server having different nicknames anyway & the imgur album up, I figured: Well, okay then. Saves me time, lol.
This whole post is just to clarify the situation and give a heads-up: if you run a hatchery, UMA shop, or anything with an editable pinglist, just be careful, you're probably being used as a tool for harassment.
Keep an eye on your spreadsheets, and make sure you note the dates/times Vinid was added to them.
Tl;dr: Namecalling and petty whining turned into harassment on FR
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)funny you’re slinging shit at me when we all know you did RMT (three way trade) for those imp scrolls. ebay auction you won for the previous owner ring a bell?
and for the record, i sleep very well at night knowing that my parents are financially secure and just returned from a europe trip funded by them :)
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)That's not a way to get yourself taken seriously.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)i apologize sincerely to every retard i have insulted. making fun of disabilities is something to be taken very seriously. i do not take harassment lightly. i will now burn the thousands of dollars of clothes that my parents bought me on this trip to atone for my sins.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)i even proceeded that message with "i just feel really bad for the artists idk."
i would never involve innocent skinmakers with petty drama (that was never even mine to begin with..), though i realize how horribly i look in all the screenshots provided against me and others, and i understand how wanting to defend myself could make me look even worse
https://imgur.com/a/3Y0buu7 [imgur album including context of vinid venting about being added to pinglists publicly in g1 hell]
your only proof of my friendgroup harassing this person was a joke i made in a public server, why would i incriminate myself like that? :sob:
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)good job cross
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-28 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)My thought was that OP wanted to provide context to how things got to the point where they are now. It also goes to show how two-faced/just... weird these people are.
I think I know the server that OP is talking about, and Cross and Vinid were (at least with how they acted towards each other) like close friends in that server, so the context helped me understand how that supposed friendship could turn into Vinid being the subject of harassment from Cross and their friends.
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