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I've finished getting one of each thing from arlo's ancient artifacts! now to just hoard supplies until the next dig site shows up
Turns out they were banned for multi-accounting, which tracks with the 'account returned without prejudice'. i.e. some idiots decided to reportbomb them for the thing most likely to get an account locked instead of the thing they were actually doing wrong. so. ofc they got their account back.
From what I've heard they know why people were pissed (and tbf the story I heard didn't include that they were hiding that they were going to make a bigger profit, so I understand the reaction more now) and aren't likely to mislead people again.
From what I've heard they know why people were pissed (and tbf the story I heard didn't include that they were hiding that they were going to make a bigger profit, so I understand the reaction more now) and aren't likely to mislead people again.
What I don't understand - and maybe someone can explain it to me - is why on earth would you NOT want to make the battle as fun and grandiose and full on as possible?
Are these flights not fundraising and asking for donations from their members during the 2 years between battles? Are they not amassing a huge cache of money? I get having some rules around what to include - no KS items, not price rises for a couple of days - but then go ham. That's the fun of it. What else are you saving Dom money for? It's magic pixel money, it is there to get Dominance.
No flight member should be losing money if you've made investments in hoarded fodder to funnel into your flight for cheap during the battle. You're spending Dom Bank fake money on mercs and raffle prizes and maybe AH buying and sniping. The main Dom issue should now be preventing the absolute tsunami of fodder that overwhelms attendants on Saturday and ensuring you have a gazillion attendants on that day solely dedicated to that alone, because that's a nightmare. And that's not something Dom Bank can buy, unless you want to give IF prizes for Saturday attendants.
So why is every battle now about making it as cheap as possible?
Are these flights not fundraising and asking for donations from their members during the 2 years between battles? Are they not amassing a huge cache of money? I get having some rules around what to include - no KS items, not price rises for a couple of days - but then go ham. That's the fun of it. What else are you saving Dom money for? It's magic pixel money, it is there to get Dominance.
No flight member should be losing money if you've made investments in hoarded fodder to funnel into your flight for cheap during the battle. You're spending Dom Bank fake money on mercs and raffle prizes and maybe AH buying and sniping. The main Dom issue should now be preventing the absolute tsunami of fodder that overwhelms attendants on Saturday and ensuring you have a gazillion attendants on that day solely dedicated to that alone, because that's a nightmare. And that's not something Dom Bank can buy, unless you want to give IF prizes for Saturday attendants.
So why is every battle now about making it as cheap as possible?
That would interest me too, if they do this regularly. I've come into contact with them about old dragons, so I'd like to know if they do this more often. Though I often wondered how they got most of their dragons in their lair, but that would explain....
da
tbh, my own flight's (not plague or nature) behavior is also making me question rather frequently 'what are we saving that bank money for if not for an all-out battle' (my flight doesn't seem to be buying regular raffle prizes with it), so +1 to everything said
tbh, my own flight's (not plague or nature) behavior is also making me question rather frequently 'what are we saving that bank money for if not for an all-out battle' (my flight doesn't seem to be buying regular raffle prizes with it), so +1 to everything said
Congrats nonny, I've gotten all but one thing once but I'm going to keep going until I've got the HB tasks finished.
I had a dream where the staff set up a dreamwidth for people to ask questions and contact them, and they were actually answering questions and being courteous?? I wish
To have more of them and not need a year or two between them?
To not go into debt? Lol. Battles are already expensive as is, flights don't need to go "all-out" (whatever that means??) for it to be fun.
It's funny yall are making this ruckus for NvP but SvI had no flips either and no mercs.
If a flip and excitement is what you nonnys want, tell Nature to exalt their hoarded dragons maybe?
Or help your own flight organize a battle.
It's funny yall are making this ruckus for NvP but SvI had no flips either and no mercs.
If a flip and excitement is what you nonnys want, tell Nature to exalt their hoarded dragons maybe?
Or help your own flight organize a battle.
SvL was also not fun because there were no flips. What's your point?? And no offense, but since Nature and Plague are natural mirrors of each other and this is a highly anticipated battle, I'd expect more from them than a normal conquest battle. Like other nonny said, what's the point of saving up if you're not going to go all out? What IS the hypothetical they're saving up for it not the biggest rival flight battle of the decade?
Just curious, what are your mercs getting for level 5s? I feel like the people that handle these deals for my flights are settling for too little when they accept orders
From official orders or listing on the AH???
I'm wondering if anyone is actually aware of how much battles cost. Yes, most dom banks are massive. And all of them are raising money in between battles. But the more "fun and grandiose" you make a battle, the more it costs and the less you have to work with at the end of the week when the price of fodder is insane. And when your flight drains that bank with a big battle, you have to start completely over again. Which is why it's taking 2 years for some flights to battle. Dom teams have to budget for IF and OOF expenses - all of which leak money at massive rates.
So it's not that flights want to take away your fun. It's that they have to budget shit so that you can still have fun at the end of the week.
So it's not that flights want to take away your fun. It's that they have to budget shit so that you can still have fun at the end of the week.
AYRT
Ah, that makes sense. I was ready to shittalk my flight's merc team
Ah, that makes sense. I was ready to shittalk my flight's merc team
Yeah mine is taking orders for only 500t over the PB price. Not worth it for me so I am listing, and they are selling.
AYRT
Idk about you but I had a lot of fun with SvI. The flights themselves had fun with the battle. Shadow not flipping was sad, but I was in no way disappointed by it. Ice had more OOF support, it happens.
Like the nonny below said flights are budgeting so the members can have a better experience. Battles are about the members enjoying it, not oofers who just want payouts raised for more money. Dont like the payouts? Cool, sell them in the AH then.
No one wants to go broke during a battle, that's why they dont go "all out". No debt means battles can happen more often, and not once every 2 years.
Idk about you but I had a lot of fun with SvI. The flights themselves had fun with the battle. Shadow not flipping was sad, but I was in no way disappointed by it. Ice had more OOF support, it happens.
Like the nonny below said flights are budgeting so the members can have a better experience. Battles are about the members enjoying it, not oofers who just want payouts raised for more money. Dont like the payouts? Cool, sell them in the AH then.
No one wants to go broke during a battle, that's why they dont go "all out". No debt means battles can happen more often, and not once every 2 years.
Orig anon:
My point is members don't ever have to go broke during a battle. If you've planned it then your Dom team has kept fodder to push to flight members during the week with no loss to them. The Dom bank is what funds the battle and its purpose is for this exact thing. I get that you might want to not spend all of it, but surely you want people to still be talking about the fight you put up a year later, no?
My point is members don't ever have to go broke during a battle. If you've planned it then your Dom team has kept fodder to push to flight members during the week with no loss to them. The Dom bank is what funds the battle and its purpose is for this exact thing. I get that you might want to not spend all of it, but surely you want people to still be talking about the fight you put up a year later, no?
Orig anon:
I know how much goes into a big battle. During our most recent battle we ended up with a more dedicated flight and waaaay more people used to training and exalting and donating so we actually had an influx of donations right after it was finished - and yes, we did for sure keep some money back so that we weren't ending up with nothing, I'm not saying you shouldn't do that. And again: if you've stashed enough hatchies beforehand you don't need any of your flight members to buy insanely priced fodder.
I think I'm mostly kvetching about how for everyone involved now it seems like a risk-aversion exercise instead of the glory of battle, and then I also remembered it's pixel dragons so I should go out to touch grass lol
I know how much goes into a big battle. During our most recent battle we ended up with a more dedicated flight and waaaay more people used to training and exalting and donating so we actually had an influx of donations right after it was finished - and yes, we did for sure keep some money back so that we weren't ending up with nothing, I'm not saying you shouldn't do that. And again: if you've stashed enough hatchies beforehand you don't need any of your flight members to buy insanely priced fodder.
I think I'm mostly kvetching about how for everyone involved now it seems like a risk-aversion exercise instead of the glory of battle, and then I also remembered it's pixel dragons so I should go out to touch grass lol
DA
No, I'd rather have 3 of them a year that include my flight than have stories of old about a battle from years ago about how fodder floor was stupid high and how long they had to fundraise to get to that point again to even consider planning another one.
I want to participate in those and not be sad if I'm busy on that one week during a year because next battle is not a year away.
No, I'd rather have 3 of them a year that include my flight than have stories of old about a battle from years ago about how fodder floor was stupid high and how long they had to fundraise to get to that point again to even consider planning another one.
I want to participate in those and not be sad if I'm busy on that one week during a year because next battle is not a year away.
I'm going to challenge one point one (several?) anons are repeating: that no mercs means that battles can happen more often. Where's your data? Frankly, from the very beginning of the site one battle a year was the most "often-est" I've seen a flight have battles, but most had one battle in 1.5-2 years - that didn't change much with or without mercs. Plague had their last battle in 2020 week 27; Nature - 2020 week 11, so when is the time to go all out? What's the point of literal dozens of profit pushes both flights have done? What is the point of 'flight bank', just to look at pretty numbers? If I lose and then my flight leaders say 'oh, at least we didn't go broke <3' I'd probably leave that flight's dom altogether because what will be the point of me taking part in future battles or donating my treasure to them if it's not going to be used? You might like having fun while losing but I have more fun while winning.
And, please, don't start crying how I don't know how much battles cost: I've seen the numbers for several battles straight from dom leader perspective.
And, please, don't start crying how I don't know how much battles cost: I've seen the numbers for several battles straight from dom leader perspective.
da
You can do what's most satisfying to you of course (there are definitely things I insist on doing 'naturally' just because), but it might be worth keeping an eye on the AH; many of the fams have already hit trash price, and if just buying them lets me save my tools for getting stuff from the next dig quick enough to profit off it, I'm going for that.
You can do what's most satisfying to you of course (there are definitely things I insist on doing 'naturally' just because), but it might be worth keeping an eye on the AH; many of the fams have already hit trash price, and if just buying them lets me save my tools for getting stuff from the next dig quick enough to profit off it, I'm going for that.
3 battles a year for the same flight? lol, keep dreaming
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