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... am I the only one that doesn't see the point in all the idiots complaining about exceptionally generic accent concepts being copied in the saltmine? There's one it seems obvious a tiny bit is a near copy, but mostly they're generic concepts I've seen before.

Why has it taken over?

Note, was assuming Hemophobia was the H from ice in question, as it's the only h from ice I know of that does accents. If it's someone else, correct me, please

I think it's because Hemophobia has been doing this for a while. They ask if something is a custom and/or complain about it being unobtainable, and then turn around and take the elements from the skin they want and use it for their own, even showing it in the same servers as the artists they're taking those elements from. It's kind of generic, sure, but I think that even if 90% of examples are just generic concepts and 10% is something to raise your eyebrows about, there would still be an issue, because the 10% shouldn't exist at all.

I appreciate you thinking the artists (at the very least, one) uncomfortable with what Hemophobia to their concepts are being idiots, though...

You didn't link any examples, so for transparency:

https://imgur.com/a/uo4YYD0 (this is the most obvious one imo due to the horns and how Hemophobia didn't even wait like a week to do the exact same thing. Before the artist even got a chance to PRINT the accents and sell them.)
https://imgur.com/a/2YHUBdS (the earrings, in particular)
https://saltminerising.tumblr.com/post/666235839575130112/re (worst example imo, as in it's hard to tell what was allegedly copied, but I guess I can see it with the mushrooms)

SA - I'd also like to point out maybe it's not obvious as to what in particular people find wrong with what Hemophobia is doing. It's NOT that they're using these concepts in a general sense, because yeah, someone could come up with that on their own completely separate from someone else's work. But that's not what's happening here, and it's pretty blatant. Hemophobia has shown to talk about these works and then one blink later they're using the concepts from the works they're talking about, on the same breed, in a very similar way. That's a little different from using "generic concepts", because they're plucking it directly from other artists and it's so obvious and uncomfortable to watch.

I will apologize for the use of idiots, but if they'd actually explained it clearly like you did here the first time, I would actually have understood and never used that wording. Thank you.

Instead it comes off as dogpiling and honestly sounds like a single person posting tons to look like a group.

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maybe it's taken over because people like you feel like calling people idiots for being uncomfortable over their art being copied, so they feel the need to defend themselves and explain the details beyond the direct art comparison because no one seems to want to read

it would be one thing if these accents existed completely independently of each other. but they don't. hemophobia is making it really obvious through their comments and questions that they're intentionally making rip offs of accents they can't afford or aren't available because they're customs.

it really do feel like people would care more if hemophobia was better at art and could better replicate the art they're copying. like if their art was on the level of spassow really feel like y'all would care more. but you don't because you just look at the art and go NAAAHHH not close enough get over yourselves

I will apologize for my phrasing. I shouldn't have used idiots, but they aren't really explaining things worth a damn, and they're coming off as a virtual lynch mob with the number of posts.

They're posting examples that to me have a single piece in common at best that it took me quite a bit of time to pick out. Next time, circle the commonalities and explain it in one post, and it might get more of a reaction from people. Spreading it across 5+ posts makes it hard to follow. (Fortunately, between you and the anon above, I finally have a good explanation.)

But yea. It doesn't help Hemo is shitty enough that at most it looks like a really awful bootleg knockoff of the accent. I actually bought one of the original accents off the AH after seeing that it was so good. Hemo's versions are fuzzy and blurry with no attention to detail. Which is yea... Probably why people are confused.

Hemo can't even steal work properly.

Lol at grown adults actually pulling a ORIGINAL CONCEPTS DO NOT STEAL!!!1!!!!1!1 Like is the way Hemophobia interacts with other artists irritating? Yes. Boot them out of the server if it bugs so many people. But this way of dealing with interpersonal drama by crying to salt communities over having to share the common themes of plants/horns is pathetic. I could pull up 50 accents with horns that all look roughly the same, but I don't think any of those artists stole from each other. We live in a society, we're going to influence and inspire each other. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on your outlook.

Be happy more of what you love is in the world or die mad I guess.

The thing is, I see idea sharing happening in AAA all the time: more people are trying non-dragon anatomy modification similarly to b from earth and g from lightning, more people were doing 'dragon sliced up' accents after a discussion about it a while ago, etc. But each of them actually added something new to the base concept - different animals, poses, themes, palettes, etc.

That's what I'd call being inspired by other people. What H is doing is not. (Now is the whole thing overblown? Yes. AAA isn't very ban-happy though, and it's not like H has /technically/ done anything against the rules, so I don't see anything concrete happening any time soon.)

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(At least I think you meant to reply to me.)

The insight on what the culture is normally like on AAA is useful context and it makes sense you see it that way. I just wish we had a better community response than this, it's overblown for sure.

Yeah, I've always wanted AAA to have more recognition but not like this LOL. It's been a really good fit for me in terms of average age, average time playing FR, strictness of rules, etc, despite not being a huge skin maker/collector; it's a shame people like H kill the vibe sometimes, and that others are learning about it this way.

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