AYRT (I think?) Lesbians have feelings too. Another anon has explained kindly to me where this reaction comes from, but we are all in the same community and should be able to talk to one another. If that means a lesbian saying "hey that felt like lesbophobia to me" that doesn't mean my feelings are lesser than/have less value than the person who was directly venting about people like me. I hope you're having a good day, Non.
I am aware, thank you. That's why I said "it FEELS like lesbophobia". feelings are subjective, and I am thankful that as a community we are able to talk about these feelings and discuss them and all come to agreements about stuff. Sometimes our feelings just need to be talked about and what can feel like somebody being -phobic can be solved by a simple discussion. It is hard to read text over the internet. Sorry if I came across poorly, just as a lesbian it does hurt seeing so much lesbophobia this pride, and as another anon pointed out to me this isn't a case of that but simply my own feelings. Thank you!
they listened with an open mind when i (multiparagraph anon from upthread) explained the issue and admitted they were wrong. this is just shitstirring for the sake of shitstirring, now.
You read a trans man's experience with harassment and "felt" you were being personally attacked. If it doesn't apply to you then you have no reason to feel targeted by it. Don't make this about your feelings, because we don't care.
You're probably the same TERF spamming right now cause you're both incoherent.
AYRT (lesbian anon) Yes, reading "I am weary of cis lesbians" hurt my feelings at first, especially as it is something I hear a lot from straight women a lot. I am sorry that I do have feelings as well, and I did my best to express my discomfort while being open to listening to the other opinion. I am genuinely happy to learn and discuss, so I assume other people are as well. Sorry again for anything I said that came across wrong, English is hard and I'm not very good at talking about this stuff
AYRT English is not my first language. I'm sorry. I'm trying really really hard here, I do not understand where I went wrong trying to explain my feelings and perspective here. I am sorry if I hurt anybody.
AYRT I know, I did not say trans men are women. I said it is a sentiment I hear from straight women a lot, the "I'm weary of cis lesbians" because they don't want to be approached by another woman. I have not heard many tran men say it, if any, as most of my friends are non binary or lesbians as well. Most trans men I know are also gay, so I do not hear them talk about lesbians a lot as that isn't who they are interested in. Sorry if I said something to hurt you, I hope you have a good rest of your day
I'd not bother responding to this anon again, as they're willfully misreading you at this point. You did good in this discussion! Thanks for sticking it out through the hard parts!
AYRT sorry, I am trying to explain myself but English is hard and I'm trying to not accidentally come across as antagonistic/mean. I do appreciate these discussions and I feel they are important. Sorry if expressing my feelings was in anyway inappropriate. How would I go about expressing this sentiment in the future?
AYRT "barking"? I'm just trying to explain my comment as it clearly came across poorly. Sorry for any bad English, as I said it's not my first language
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Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)Lesbians have feelings too. Another anon has explained kindly to me where this reaction comes from, but we are all in the same community and should be able to talk to one another. If that means a lesbian saying "hey that felt like lesbophobia to me" that doesn't mean my feelings are lesser than/have less value than the person who was directly venting about people like me.
I hope you're having a good day, Non.
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)Is this the same TERF currently spamming the comm?
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)they listened with an open mind when i (multiparagraph anon from upthread) explained the issue and admitted they were wrong. this is just shitstirring for the sake of shitstirring, now.
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)and I still really appreciate it!
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)You read a trans man's experience with harassment and "felt" you were being personally attacked. If it doesn't apply to you then you have no reason to feel targeted by it. Don't make this about your feelings, because we don't care.
You're probably the same TERF spamming right now cause you're both incoherent.
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)Yes, reading "I am weary of cis lesbians" hurt my feelings at first, especially as it is something I hear a lot from straight women a lot. I am sorry that I do have feelings as well, and I did my best to express my discomfort while being open to listening to the other opinion. I am genuinely happy to learn and discuss, so I assume other people are as well. Sorry again for anything I said that came across wrong, English is hard and I'm not very good at talking about this stuff
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)English is not my first language. I'm sorry. I'm trying really really hard here, I do not understand where I went wrong trying to explain my feelings and perspective here. I am sorry if I hurt anybody.
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)I appreciate the discussion a lot. Thank you for your kindness
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)I know, I did not say trans men are women. I said it is a sentiment I hear from straight women a lot, the "I'm weary of cis lesbians" because they don't want to be approached by another woman. I have not heard many tran men say it, if any, as most of my friends are non binary or lesbians as well. Most trans men I know are also gay, so I do not hear them talk about lesbians a lot as that isn't who they are interested in. Sorry if I said something to hurt you, I hope you have a good rest of your day
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)sorry, I am trying to explain myself but English is hard and I'm trying to not accidentally come across as antagonistic/mean. I do appreciate these discussions and I feel they are important. Sorry if expressing my feelings was in anyway inappropriate. How would I go about expressing this sentiment in the future?
Re: Happy pride month!
(Anonymous) 2021-06-11 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)"barking"? I'm just trying to explain my comment as it clearly came across poorly. Sorry for any bad English, as I said it's not my first language
Re: Happy pride month!
Yes