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mindlessflight ([personal profile] mindlessflight) wrote in [community profile] anonrerising2020-06-23 12:36 am

1: Let There Be Salt


 
 

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Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought some people did brews for free exp. Not everyone is rich enough to brew all of the time. I'm pretty rich and I don't even bother with that.

If you think I need to tip then why don't you tell me what's appropriate then?

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You always have to tip, no ifs, buts, I thoughts or I assumeds - especially if you claim that you are pretty rich.

You tip when they didn't expect anything in return? You just made someone double happy, congratulations, both of you end up better.

You don't tip because you assume that the privilege of doing something for you (brewing, buying dom discounted scrolls, etc) is enough? You're happy and they aren't, congratulations, rich asshole.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
i think the free exp is the tip. i'm content using my own cauldron and i don't use it that much. it's more of a hassle on my part to send things over to other people. i brew some bogsneak eggs here and there and it's not profitable if i have to tip every time.

i guess other people wanted free exp, but i guess not. but if people are expecting things i guess they should say that they want it instead of relying on unspoken tip guidelines. especially since many players come from a culture where tipping isn't expected.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not profitable if i have to tip every time.

Well, that's the whole point - if your entire profit is the tip you owe the other person, then you're getting rich by abusing someone's good intentions as they could have brewed that egg themselves and got both the exp and the tip/profit themselves. And spare the """"culture"""" excuses, paying and thanking for a service well done is a basic decency. Don't be the asshole and split the profit with whoever is doing you the service.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
DA (who has never rented a cauldron) but I think the assumption is that you are providing materials and treasure for a brew that the other person might not be able to afford. If you're not reliably online enough to melt things every half hour it can be hard to get together the materials to brew enough things to level up your cauldron.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
i think it's really hard to level up your cauldron just by melting alone after a certain point. and you can get exp through brewing but i feel like it's not affordable for everyone.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
do you really think it's that profitable brewing stuff with baldwin? you must be on drugs

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
But it is very profitable what drugs are you on? Selling mats or selling eggs is godly cash even if you're using someone's cauldron. Esp if you can jump on new baldwin genes that aren't mutually hated by the community.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
good lord this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard about baldwin shit

as a baldwin brewer for people- no, you don't have to tip. we're getting the EXP, and we aren't doing literally anything. the materials are provided to us. we're not using our own materials to brew. if you're using baldwin for profit, ie gene scrolls, eggs, etc, you're not offering up your cauldron to be out of commission for most of the day, and if you are and you get salty about it because people aren't tipping - you're an idiot. tiny tips in treasure cannot make up for loss of profit by letting people use their cauldron

if you brew for profit you're not cutting that profit into pennies on the dollar to brew for people. i reiterate, if you DO brew for profit and get pissed because people are taking up your cauldron and not tipping... stop fucking brewing for people then, idiot, brewing for other people is not a
business venture and no one is putting a gun to your head saying "brew for me and stop your profits"
this is such total nonsense. complete fucking fabricated problems

SA

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
i hit enter too soon but all i didn't tack on was:
not everyone is from a culture where the working class relies on tips to survive, tipping is not the norm in so many places because they actually pay their workers
tons of people don't even know what tipping is, or where its necessary
and its absolutely not necessary on a pet sim where youre offering what you say is a FREE SERVICE - people not from tipping cultures aren't going to tip. require payment if you want a tip, otherwise shut up about the americocentric "tips are required" because they super arent

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly this. There are also some cultures where tipping is considered offensive because it implies that you think they're poor and need extra help.

If you want tips, require a fee instead of relying on the goodwill of people from pro-tipping cultures.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
it's a dragon browser game, tipping someone here doesn't mean you imply they are starving to death

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2020-09-16 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
Lmao

For the love of god do you not see the difference between RL cultures and flight rising

But tbh I do brews and I just don’t work with someone again if they don’t tip me. I’m at a level where even brewing doesn’t supply a lot compared to what EXP I need to level up so sis gotta make money

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Fun fact: I'm not american, I'm even from one of those cultures where we actually pay everyone so tipping is optional and I found this entire rant a very long way to say that you're a stingy asshole. You are comparing a pixel site where there are no wages with RL, with wages and everything; I believe the saying is 'apples to oranges'. Frankly, the not-tipping is what sounds more american to me, with all that obsession with CaPiTaLiSm this and PrOFit that and FEE another.

Yes, tipping is absolutely necessary even on a pet sim and the stingy assholes like you is why there are so much fewer dom shops and other semi-free service threads - just because a 'pretty rich' asshole couldn't even find in their hoard a junk familiar to attach, now there are less resources for players who actually cannot afford to tip or those that always tipped.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you so salty about service in a pet game? You need to calm down. It's suddenly a crime that I want to brew items in Baldwin for a profit and not spend my time breaking even? I was trying to help people get free exp but apparently this is soooo wrong. Some players do rent out their cauldron for free exp because they level up but according to you this is never a thing.

Why don't you tell me how much I NEED to tip then?

SA

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
also TIL that only Americans run businesses for profit. everywhere else, people people just do things from the good of their hearts.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
da

so were you asking in bad faith if it was wrong not to tip?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ironic considering your tone, but you're an example of the people offering the service "out of sheer kindness", as I put it above.

I promise you, no one here is dumb enough to think EVERYTHING is about profit and bargains and favors. We're aware FR is a game people play for fun. EXCEPT it's OP who brought up favors in the first place, i.e. they think the brewer gets the better end of the deal. Which, well, you definitely do not (in your words, "tiny tips in treasure cannot make up for loss of profit").

So, whatever your stance on tipping etiquette, OP DEFINITELY refuses to tip brewers for wrong reasons entirely.

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
tipping culture vs non-tipping culture expectations strike again

Re: Is it bad I don't tip brewers?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
i get it man. I get got by unspoken shit like this a lot. :( i just end up tipping everyone who does anything at all bc im so scared of breaking social conventions that i don't even know, but that's just me ^^;