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okay but it's not AI. So you're just being a dick about someone's art :)
learn what rough concept art looks like. It's not about being perfect. None of this looks like AI, you can look through their gallery back through the years and it's always been consistent. There is no justifiable concern at all. AI claims are complete BS and harmful to ALL artists if anyone can be secretly accused of AI without ever being approached for any proof otherwise first.
Why would the album's creator not ask for proof first? This is just speculation being treated as hard evidence when it's absolutely nothing.
Why would the album's creator not ask for proof first? This is just speculation being treated as hard evidence when it's absolutely nothing.
literally no one on rai's side will provide any sort of evidence. not a single person has shown proof that rai had a commissioner who actually stole art not them, rai has yet to acknowledge that many of their CAs are very similar to fr art, and no one seems to be trying to show proof that rai can actually draw these bgs. no videos, no files, nothing.
so you know what? i think it's pretty reasonable for some people to believe this imgur album, especially when the artist has been acting extremely suspicious. if rai was so shocked to discover that they had accidentally stolen art, why didn't they make an effort to let their customers know? especially when lorwolf staff took 3+ weeks to upload the updated art? wouldn't you as an artist want to clear up ANY misconceptions to ensure everyone was aware that you accidentally stole artwork and were making all efforts possible to fix it? wouldn't you want to offer that up? because you're not at fault?
nah for some reason rai and everyone involved seemed to want to deal with this as quietly as possible, even though it was a publicly sold CA. weird that rai didn't immediately offer refunds to possible customers when they found out three weeks ago that the art was stolen. if they really cared all that much about stealing art on accident, don't you think they would have said SOMETHING?
why the fuck would you approach an artist who you think is stealing art and ask for their side first? so they can hide even more evidence? are you guys just too old to have been active on deviantart?
you know what, even if you want to say that people should have approached rai first, fine! they made a mistake. now that it's public though, what's keeping rai and everyone who apparently knows better from showing the proof that they have? are they just hiding it because they feel petty because their feelings were hurt because no one took their accusations to them first?
if they want to act like little children that's fine, but it's not going to change and minds so not sure what will be accomplished from that
so you know what? i think it's pretty reasonable for some people to believe this imgur album, especially when the artist has been acting extremely suspicious. if rai was so shocked to discover that they had accidentally stolen art, why didn't they make an effort to let their customers know? especially when lorwolf staff took 3+ weeks to upload the updated art? wouldn't you as an artist want to clear up ANY misconceptions to ensure everyone was aware that you accidentally stole artwork and were making all efforts possible to fix it? wouldn't you want to offer that up? because you're not at fault?
nah for some reason rai and everyone involved seemed to want to deal with this as quietly as possible, even though it was a publicly sold CA. weird that rai didn't immediately offer refunds to possible customers when they found out three weeks ago that the art was stolen. if they really cared all that much about stealing art on accident, don't you think they would have said SOMETHING?
why the fuck would you approach an artist who you think is stealing art and ask for their side first? so they can hide even more evidence? are you guys just too old to have been active on deviantart?
you know what, even if you want to say that people should have approached rai first, fine! they made a mistake. now that it's public though, what's keeping rai and everyone who apparently knows better from showing the proof that they have? are they just hiding it because they feel petty because their feelings were hurt because no one took their accusations to them first?
if they want to act like little children that's fine, but it's not going to change and minds so not sure what will be accomplished from that
sa
also think it's so funny that posts defending rai seem to get posted around the same time in little chunks, even though they're responding to different parts of the conversation lol
could just be tin foil hat me but it sure is interesting watching the way rai defenders behave
also think it's so funny that posts defending rai seem to get posted around the same time in little chunks, even though they're responding to different parts of the conversation lol
could just be tin foil hat me but it sure is interesting watching the way rai defenders behave
Willingness to continue working on a thing until they fix the problem is absolutely a good look.
You suspecting some same anon in this house?
yea, but i could be wrong. i have just noticed that it's a pretty small and consistent group of people that keep repeating the same things but with nothing to back it up and act like anyone pointing out all the suspicious actions by rai are crazy. there are tons of people off anon that have agreed with the album, but the anon places talking about it get a bunch of anon submissions/posts that keep repeating the same thing? yea it looks a little weird i guess
ok, not talking about the stolen art. I am talking about the AI accusations. Which are bullshit.
Yes it is the posters fault for not approaching her first, or at all. That is all! :)
Yes it is the posters fault for not approaching her first, or at all. That is all! :)
oh well
guess someone needs to put on their big person pants and deal with the fact that not everyone picked the most ideal circumstances for you in particular
guess someone needs to put on their big person pants and deal with the fact that not everyone picked the most ideal circumstances for you in particular
You all maliciously spread hatred to an innocent artist through salt blogs while anonymous, without knowing half of what happened and what was decided between them and the mods, and they are acting like little children? that's quite hilarious. Look at a fucking mirror you moron.
> without knowing half of what happened
then prove it
show the proof
do it
prove everyone wrong
all i see is that one side showed evidence of stolen art and a compilation of suspicious backgrounds that may be AI or retouched AI. even if their suspicions are wrong they are still directly showing piece of rai's work that they feel need to be addressed.
the other side? have given no evidence. nothing. weird that people are being demonized for not believing the side that refuses to give any proof of anything they're saying. just trust me bro, i would never lie to you bro. all this hearsay you should believe blindly! it's fine! don't ask questions!
either nut up and de-anon yourself since you're sooooo sure that rai has done nothing wrong, or shut the fuck up with all this "hehe you're wrong but i won't prove it! uwu" bullshit.
then prove it
show the proof
do it
prove everyone wrong
all i see is that one side showed evidence of stolen art and a compilation of suspicious backgrounds that may be AI or retouched AI. even if their suspicions are wrong they are still directly showing piece of rai's work that they feel need to be addressed.
the other side? have given no evidence. nothing. weird that people are being demonized for not believing the side that refuses to give any proof of anything they're saying. just trust me bro, i would never lie to you bro. all this hearsay you should believe blindly! it's fine! don't ask questions!
either nut up and de-anon yourself since you're sooooo sure that rai has done nothing wrong, or shut the fuck up with all this "hehe you're wrong but i won't prove it! uwu" bullshit.
ooooh? whats going on with the chickens?
eh if we're talking about spicy memes in the Suggestions forum, then I'm more amused at the petulant kid crying and demanding username receipts over their dragons being exalted
sorry to cringepost RL shit but
im beginning to go blind in both eyes, and ive been told that it's unlikely i'll be able to see at all some time in the next 10 years. im not even 30 yet
if i go blind, i am absolutely atrociously FUCKED. i have aphantasia, which means i can't form pictures in my head.. so if i go blind, i wont ever be able to remember anything ive seen. ill never be able to reminisce my vision-based memories with photos, or remember my partner's face, or "see" anything by feeling it with my hands. and a ton of other stuff
pour one out for me, friends
im beginning to go blind in both eyes, and ive been told that it's unlikely i'll be able to see at all some time in the next 10 years. im not even 30 yet
if i go blind, i am absolutely atrociously FUCKED. i have aphantasia, which means i can't form pictures in my head.. so if i go blind, i wont ever be able to remember anything ive seen. ill never be able to reminisce my vision-based memories with photos, or remember my partner's face, or "see" anything by feeling it with my hands. and a ton of other stuff
pour one out for me, friends
+1
I have been on the fence. I think the AI allegations are a mixed bag. Some of them convince me, others do not. That being said, as an artist, the lack urgency on the artist's part to prove that she painted these backgrounds is bizarre to me.
Being accused of using AI is very scary and I agree is a problem in the modern world. Unfortunately this is the world that we live in at the moment. If I was accused of using AI, I would be bringing up as much evidence as possible to support myself. WIPs I sent my friends, a copy of the file showing my layers, drafts of other projects, a video of myself painting a similar background, anything! Because I am truly creating these pieces of artwork myself, I think it's actually relatively easy to prove that I drew them myself. I have all the evidence that someone who used AI wouldn't have, because I made these pieces.
I wish that I could understand why she choosing to act like this. It is not my gut to side with the negative, but I think it's very suspicious how lack of forthcoming Rai has been this entire time. If I understand the series of events correctly, Rai was alerted that the Herbalist's Mantle was stolen art several weeks ago.
My integrity as an artist is paramount, there's no way I would say nothing for weeks? I would say something even if I thought no one had noticed. It's just not right not to. Rai is acting like someone who got caught, not someone who is the victim.
It would help if Rai would say why they feel that sharing proof or being upfront about these issues would be in any kind of way a negative to her. At this point it will do nothing but exonerate her if she is truly innocent.
I have been on the fence. I think the AI allegations are a mixed bag. Some of them convince me, others do not. That being said, as an artist, the lack urgency on the artist's part to prove that she painted these backgrounds is bizarre to me.
Being accused of using AI is very scary and I agree is a problem in the modern world. Unfortunately this is the world that we live in at the moment. If I was accused of using AI, I would be bringing up as much evidence as possible to support myself. WIPs I sent my friends, a copy of the file showing my layers, drafts of other projects, a video of myself painting a similar background, anything! Because I am truly creating these pieces of artwork myself, I think it's actually relatively easy to prove that I drew them myself. I have all the evidence that someone who used AI wouldn't have, because I made these pieces.
I wish that I could understand why she choosing to act like this. It is not my gut to side with the negative, but I think it's very suspicious how lack of forthcoming Rai has been this entire time. If I understand the series of events correctly, Rai was alerted that the Herbalist's Mantle was stolen art several weeks ago.
My integrity as an artist is paramount, there's no way I would say nothing for weeks? I would say something even if I thought no one had noticed. It's just not right not to. Rai is acting like someone who got caught, not someone who is the victim.
It would help if Rai would say why they feel that sharing proof or being upfront about these issues would be in any kind of way a negative to her. At this point it will do nothing but exonerate her if she is truly innocent.
SA
Lmao my bad I meant to type -1000
Lmao my bad I meant to type -1000
I feel like every once in awhile a Suggestions thread like that crying about their AH dragons getting exalted (even better, unnamed) pops up and it's always the same thing.
There's a second part to that sentence; you're taking that phrase out of context. I said I didn't think artists would intentionally steal directly from someone else's work without actually tracing, because that doesn't reduce the amount of effort that goes into a piece.
"I personally just want to keep my dragons from being removed form the gene pool by force"
lmfao bruh with 17 million unexalted dragons and a grand total of 86 million dragons bred onsite i think the """gene pool""" is, perhaps, fine. i never understood the urge to spite exalt until now
lmfao bruh with 17 million unexalted dragons and a grand total of 86 million dragons bred onsite i think the """gene pool""" is, perhaps, fine. i never understood the urge to spite exalt until now
AYRT
I'm not defending theft. Theft is bad. I'm saying that I had heard this particular case was could have been an accident. That's all.
I'm not defending theft. Theft is bad. I'm saying that I had heard this particular case was could have been an accident. That's all.
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