anonrerising | Love, Drama, Dragons.

What's so disgusting about that? They just seem lonely and have low self estem.

narcissism is a disgusting trait to have. that's literally all they're trying to say. lonely/low self-esteem doesn't give a pass to narcissism, and honestly people need to have some serious inflection to realize that putting yourself on a pedestal is probably the reason why they are so lonely if that's their problem.

i don't see natron being a lonely type tho. they seem just fine living in their alternate realities and shit by themselves. i find them irritating but ultimately fascinating in some way. they just really be putting everything out there

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thanks anon! That's exactly what I was trying to say, you nailed it :)

To be honest, I don't care if Natron has narcissism or is lonely etc..

What irritates me about them is their 'holier than thou' type posts where they have to come in and say things like 'well, since magic CANNOT EXIST, I don't believe in religion, nor can this have actually happened this way, and it had to happen that way' on posts that literally are just trying to have fun.

Or the ones where someone makes the horrible mistake of calling an 'arm' a 'leg' because the animal has four legs, but technically the two front ones are 'arms' and they have to come in and 'correct' that.

Basically they are lowkey annoying to me, but it is more about their need to correct things like they dislike and seemingly inability to allow others to pretend that 'hey, magic exists, how would this happen if it does' without 'well magic CANNOT EXIST, so it cannot have happened this way but HAD to happen that way'

you should care if they are a narc, because those people literally have 0 empathy. they are incapable of realizing how they come off to others. i also believe you're exaggerating about them, bc when they enter threads (now) with "their almighty knowledge" they definitely tell you it's THEIR canon, not THE canon. no idea about before. i completely understand though why you feel the way you do about them because there's so many times i wanted to block them honestly.

This. I've honestly been uncomfortable with this thread because of the whole "Personality Disorders/mental illness = BAD PERSON" mindset going on.

Narcissists can be harmful, but those who seek help to alter their behavior deserve some credit. Personality disorders are REALLY hard to live with, deal with and treat. It also takes a lot of mental strength and self awareness- or love of the people around them- to admit they have a problem and seek therapy and DBT/CBT to work on fixing their harmful behavior.

Alternatively, there could be something else going on. Natron could be autistic or have Borderline Personality Disorder- both have extremely black and white thinking and stubborn mindsets (and neither make a person BAD, just different.)

I don't know whether Natron is a 'bad' person, but they are an annoying one. annoying doesn't equal bad either. That is also why I am not trying to diagnose them, because I don't know them personally, so can only judge from what I have seen.

I tend to be leery of trying to diagnose people online, because people can be completely different in real life. Natron could be the best person you could know in real life, but they want to 'have fun' on a dragon pet site, so could have made up this whole 'personality' that they use while playing it. We just don't know (it isn't likely, but still possible)

My personality is different in real life as well, if you met me in person, you would be lucky to get two words from me. I definitely do not like face to face meetings, nor do I really like talking aloud. But online, I can engage with perfect strangers, and type novellas trying to explain my thoughts with ease. I don't make up personalities/personas to play petsites with (mainly because I would never be able to keep it straight) but I know others who will have 'characters' that they become in certain instances.

But again, I don't think Natron is 'bad', just as I don't feel that most of the people who get complained about are 'bad'. They tend to be just annoying, which is different.

The reason I don't care is because I don't interact with them and I don't know them. So their behavior doesn't affect me other than minor irritation when I see them posting occasionally. There is also nothing I can do to 'help' them, so whatever issues they have, don't really matter. I mean, I could tell them to get therapy, or get help, but honestly? a random stranger online telling someone to get help without knowing the situation doesn't help at all.

My issue is that if you are going onto a thread that is specifically talking about MAGIC and then say 'My mind says MAGIC cannot exist' then that is sort of invalidating what others were talking about, because they were talking specifically about magic. I mean, I know it is just their canon, but frankly if you are on a thread specifically about something, don't go in and say 'it doesn't exist to me, so this is how it has to be'

Or if you try to derail an entire thread by correcting someone's use of 'legs' instead of arms.

To me it is like the people who will completely ignore the points someone has made in a debate/argument/conversation JUST to point out that they used the wrong for of they're/their/there. That often will derail the entire conversation and it is extremely annoying.

Plus, while those are the instances I can think of, there are other reasons, such as them claiming to be the inspiration behind the majority (or so it seems) of apparel sets etc that other people have had an issue with (I have only seen the instances of them claiming to be the reason some apparel sets exist after they were brought up on other sites)

I honestly don't see them THAT often, and now that I have read their FAQ etc.. I definitely don't want to interact with them more than necessary. It hasn't gotten to block level for me yet (as I said, I don't tend to run into them very often), but then again for me to block someone, they have to have done something TRULY bad.

Being honest if all they did was just believe in wacky shit like "I'm an upcoming god" and post in every thread about Scientific Dragons, I don't think anyone would care. At least I hope they wouldn't. You can find all sorts of weird crap like this on FR or the internet in general, it's not like Natron's the first ever person to post constantly and believe in fictional stuff or try to apply reality to it.

The real issue comes in is where they outright lie to just make themselves look good. It's selfish, pointless, and it spreads misinformation to everyone who might know about banning or just has anxiety over it.
Heres the screenshots of when they originally got banned, to better explain what I mean:
https://i.imgur.com/mle66Cm.png
https://i.imgur.com/nmBAw6W.png
https://i.imgur.com/aPZmfUT.png
Staff does not ban people for gifting too much. I seriously doubt the staff didn't tell them why they got banned, and even if they didn't then I'm shocked they never read the rules and realized why they really got banned.

When they had to remove stuff memes that said "how to top your sub" and some other one about slapping a guy's ass, they had this to say:
https://i.imgur.com/GLmqDD0.png
like ah yes, this inappropriate content is totally there for character development and only 'slightly vulgar' depending on context, don't you get it?

I get that they likely can't say "I broke this rule because of this", but I would totally forget about it (and I hope others would) if they just moved on and didn't try to justify it all publicly as "OMG staff is so messed up with banning, how could they misunderstand me and my friend's games?" or "oh sorry you felt that way, it wasn't actually inappropriate, you just didn't get the joke". How they respond to rulebreaking is just... eugh. Very strange at best?

god whenever they try to make up bullshit to save their ass its honestly annoying. like "no you see.. i didnt ACTUALLY break any rules [aggressively backpedals] you're simplying misunderstanding the situation :)"
also +111 at the first one especially?? spreading misinformation is really just the cherry on top

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