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or maybe they are playing the long con to make the dom battle paradigm as we know it now (with the fortunes spent and months of preparation and careful scheduling) collapse entirely?

It's not going to work. My bet is that it's just going to push the burden of the costs of dom onto the individual players instead of the flight again, which is shittier.

This battle honestly looks more like one of those prearranged multiple flight pushes than a real battle.

Or maybe they would like to actually have a battle instead of a pissing contest to see which flight can buy dominance for the week. I wouldn't call that a con. Other flights have had similar battle terms in the past where mercing wasn't allowed or there were caps on prizes or payouts. None of this is new, it's just that dom battles are so few and far between now that no one remembers. Not every flight has a bunch of kickstarter shit just sitting around in their dom banks so that three people can go nuts sending low level dragons to try and get them.

Dude, that is the whole point of a battle. It's a pissing contest of who has the most money and resources to buy Dom that week. If you think it's anything else, you are kidding yourself.

Time and player energy are resources to throw at it as much as treasure is.

100%. if there's no mercs then rich players buy mercs—the only difference is that it's not an official strategy paid for by the bank. caps on prizes don't necessarily ensure the raffles are equal (eg: ice had a significantly better raffle than shadow). you might as well be open about the fact that it's going to be expensive and you are trying to use your given resources in the best possible way to win. even with mercs a lot of strategy is involved. it's a bummer that battles are so expensive and draining, but that's more a function of increasing hibden spaces than anything.

Dude, that is not the whole point of a battle. A flight does not have an obligation to line the pockets of OOF members. Yes, it is smart and necessary to entice OOF members to participate. But there is no rule saying that OOF people are owed insane payouts or kickstarter raffle items. Plenty of people will send dragons for any amount above a normal payout. And plenty of people will enter raffles where they are getting a chance at a prize while making a profit.

I find it interesting that everyone is judging the OOF raffles before they've even seen them. Just because they don't plan on having Light Sprites, doesn't mean that the raffles won't be worthwhile. Last time I checked 25kg wasn't pocket change. There's really nothing to lose if you are leveling fodder anyway. You'll still be making a higher than usual profit and will have a chance to win prizes during a week that wouldn't usually have them. Why all the bitching?

the point of battles is to win by any means necessary, including spending money, not to make a profit for everyone else. if people are going to buy mercs anyway they might as well be bought as part of an overall strategy using communal funds.

Flights are already hemorrhaging money to pay for raffles and public buys. Why should they be forced to also pay for mercs just because people want more profit on top of the profit they would get by selling to a public buy? I'm saying this as someone who frequently profits off of mercing. If someone wants to pay more for dragons, let them. But flights shouldn't be required to budget them in if they don't want to. It takes resources and volunteers away from other flight efforts. You can't blame any flight for not wanting to spend that kind of money for dragons they can get cheaper through other channels.

My issue is this isn't going to eliminate mercs, it's just tossing the cost to individuals in a flight when things get desperate. It's an illusion of battles being cheaper, because an individual buying mercs doesn't get added to total spending.

No one is trying to eliminate mercs though? They just don't want to spend communal flight funds on them. If individuals decide they want to spend their money on merc dragons, that's their choice? People have always chosen to spend their own money during battles. It's not an illusion of being cheaper, it actually is cheaper for the flight as a whole. Personal spending is never included in the total spending. Are flights supposed to start trying to calculate what individuals are spending from their personal funds on fodder as well?

Anon, is there the expectation in your flight that individuals will lose money buying fodder during a battle?

Trainers (as well as attendants) shouldn't lose money because it creates participation barriers and they're already volunteering their time and other resources. (Lair space).

Flight funds should be paying to flip fodder to trainers at payout prices. I thought this was the norm but some flights don't do this???? So yeah, internally trained fodder is a visible cost for some flights and not for others.

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