BINGO

[mindlessflight]

Since this post will be current until January, thought I'd be salty/have fun with it. Let's see if we get Bingo, shall we?


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Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

oh. baby. talk math and dom strategy to me...

Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

Well, since you asked. The fundamental problem is the current linear ratio introduces an ironclad distortion into the market.

Larger flights pay more money for levels that are worth proportionally fewer dominance points.

Smaller flights pay less money for levels that are worth proportionally more dominance points.

There is no way to fix this without tackling the economic side of the problem, and/or without understanding that the reason dom battles have become expensive is that out-of-flight SPENDING by smaller flights is multiplicatively more powerful.

It's like if large flights were retail investors and small flights were private equity firms.

Granted the smaller flight does not always win. In a perfect world (gonna be honest) the smaller flight would always win under the current algorithm. The fact that it doesn't happen is a reflection of the challenge of organizing people. But therein larger flights also have significantly more organizational challenges -- herding many cats rather than fewer.

Larger flights can supposedly raise more money, but that fundraising ability also has a tendency to be linked to organizational effectiveness.

Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

'Fairness' is a horribly woolly concept, but I would raise this -
Is it fair to implement a system that penalises flights for encouraging active exalting and being well organised? Earth gets more points per dragon purchased, but each point also costs more per person than any other flight.

However, Earth has had one battle in the last few years. The 'dom powerhouse' aspect has little to nothing to do with Earth having greater dom point purchasing power - it's from establishing an exalting culture and having effective support in getting newbies/new joiners into the various aspects. Implementing changes based solely on exalting numbers says 'if you're working too hard, you'll be penalised'.

I am 100% behind the idea of having a system to handle the issue of OOF support. Perhaps something that accounts for what element a dragon came from - basing it on who last held the dragon for over X period of time, or similar. A blanket approach that doesn't distinguish between individual effort and OOF participation? Not cool with me.

Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

"Fairness" was not present in my original response, if you were talking to me. FR as a site is already dealing with the blanket approach that doesn't distinguish between individual effort and OOF participation, too. That's the scaling algorithm as currently implemented.

I don't envy the coder who has to try to balance this mechanic since it so heavily interacts with the market economy, tbqh.

Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
I know it didn't - that's why I raised it! I figure that a different blanket response with the same fundamental issues isn't really a fix.

Re: The problem with dominance

[(Anonymous)]

lol, earth's mythical superior exalting culture is just having the aesthetics of dirt as no one moves there for anything else