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So... It's all or nothing. We get old obelisks back and change other breeds to match, or we get the new obelisks and it stays the same. What do you think?

I think staff is being fucking ridiculous.

they're essentially asking people upset about the ob change to force everyone else to potentially have the same experience of their dragons being ruined or suck up their own unhappiness for the sake of the rest of the community. also two days around holiday time is way too short a runtime for such a big change.

Honestly, flair looks kind of halfassed on the manes of any breed other than obelisk. While I hate how this is being put to us, I think the other breeds might benefit. Tundras are boring with it now.

Just because you think it looks boring doesn't mean players haven't been using that boring version too - all in all, it will just be the same problem as now, just the affected breed will change. It's plain manipulation tactic by staff, confusing wording so that at least some players don't understand what they vote for and mandatory changes for the sake of changes: in the end it will just lead to another passive-aggressive post by acorn in the tone of 'but you chose it yourself, we cannot be blamed by what the players chose :)'.

At least this finally killed any shred of leftover guilt I had from not buying gems and using ad-blocker to block all ads on FR.

just when i thought FR players couldnt be more dramatic about dragon PNGs, lol

Buddy, you're also here with us.

This is basically my reaction every time the inevitable 'it's just a dumb dragon game, why do you care so much?' bit is trotted out.

Because...yeah? It's a dumb dragon game and we're here because we're bored and don't have more fulfilling/enriching things to do with assorted chunks of time. All of us. Everybody on the site and most especially those who seek out offsite communities. That's hardly a big secret or a gotcha point in an argument.

But I don't see as how it makes much difference whether you do FR-related timekilling by coli grinding, designing outfits, snickering over petty drama, or analyzing/hypothesizing how the site could be differently run. It's all pretty much equally pointless, none of those choices more noble than any other. So yeah, I make word-vomity posts about site design and user behavior. (Self-evidently.) Because I have rather little brain->keyboard filter when there's an outlet to anonymously spew such, so why not indulge myself?

That doesn't mean I'm lapsing into actual depression over the possibility of irritating security measures (yes, I'm the yappy anon in that thread) or flair gene changes. (Albeit I'm rather grateful I'm so behind on breeding projects using previous genes I haven't even considered seeking out any dragons with flaunt/flair yet.)

you can care deeply about something without going into melodramatic public rants about it. i never said "hurhur look at this idiot playing a dragon game" because of course i also play and enjoy it. i just think you're being dramatic, which is why i called you dramatic.

nayrt - I'll repeat: buddy, you're on an anonsite with the rest of us, you really don't have a leg to tell someone they shouldn't be melodramatic on an anon site meant specifically for that

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Agreeing with the anon calling you dramatic over pixels.

Also, if you don't like staff decisions to the point where you aren't willing to support the site to help it stay open to play on, why not leave?

The fact is, if you buy gems off players or do any business in gems, you're encouraging other players to pay the site for gems instead. You're not making that strong a statement.

Irony is telling me I'm dramatic for refusing to directly pay a site for decisions I don't like yet in the same breath telling me to leave as if 'slamming doors' isn't a classic overdramatic teenage tantrum - you're not making that strong of a statement either.

It's not throwing a teenage tantrum. It's deciding the game isn't what you want and moving on.

I honestly think the not spending money and blocking adds to spite staff while staying is more of a teenage tantrum.

Edited 2021-12-29 01:18 (UTC)

I'm fine with it, I get why they want them consistent across breeds as much as possible and honestly I want Obelisk flair on other breeds instead of what we got. I'm glad they responded so quickly to this backlash. Time to vote.

it makes sense to me. idk why ob genes should be treated differently than all the others. it sucks that people put time+effort into putting two genes on obelisks but in looking at this from a distance it seems silly to give them explicitly different gene designs.

Thank you.

I see so many people on site 'who cares about consistency, I want Obes to be super special' and I am like 'Yeah, I understand you like how Obes look now, and dislike the fixed version and don't want your older dragons to be changed, but maybe I would like to use the 'obe' flair on older dragons because I like it better? Maybe I hate the Obe flair but love Obes and want to use Flair on them?

That is why I dislike the Iri/shim issue, because I love both versions on certain colors, and would love to be able to use the other version on the colors it currently doesn't work for (ie, new version Iri/shim on old colors, and old version Iri/shim on new colors). It is situational. I would love some soft gradients with like bubblegum.

but, with a gene being inconsistent (and wildly inconsistent, not minorly), it means that if I have a bubble gum dragon, but love white iri/shim, I can't use iri/shim on that bubblegum dragon, because bubblegum iri/shim does NOT look like white iri/shim. (and I am not talking about colors)

Can't search the suggestions forum right now of course, but there's a really interesting one in there about gene 'variants' - like, all dragons with flaunt/flair will still be considered to have flaunt/flair, but there'd be a cheaper-than-scroll option to toggle between variations in gene art/color/whatever. Would be great for everything from this, IriShim, Jup/Sat, etc etc, plus would open the door to making a lot of terts more customizable/flexible, without much art effort in a lot of cases, without stuffing the MP with more scrolls, picking names/themes for entirely new genes, etc etc. I think it'd be great for creative longevity if there were more customization options without staff having to constantly wrack their brains for fresh gene concepts.

Yeah, I have seen that, and supported it and want it so much, because it would be, at least it seems like it would be, a low effort way to bring out new variety in genes, and give players the ability to further make their dragons look 'unique' while still having the same 'gene'.

I think the biggest variant issue would be for iri/shim because it is drawn by hand, so they would have to do all variants by hand.

But, most others would be minor changes, such as colors, which they have a program to do for them, or removing a layer or 'cutting' out a bit of the gene (such as runes' feet)

I *really* really wish they would bring that out...

i think that's fair. doesn't make sense to only have 1 of the breeds have a cool effect (even if they don't all have a large mane).

Yeah, to be honest, I sort of dislike the idea 'obes should keep this cool effect, because it makes them super special' because what if I want imperials to be super special?

That is why I like consistency. So, I can have a cool effect on the breeds I like, and others can have it on the breeds they like.

(and yeah, there will always be gene inconsistencies that are minor, simply due to how different breeds are shaped/posed. But those are usually, as said, minor, not a major change like the obe's mane)

I literally don't understand what I would be voting for, both options sound like "wizard's choice" where whatever I vote for doesn't matter because staff will do the same thing.

It's not the same thing at all, unless you're saying either way it sucks for someone.

We get the fancier old obelisk mane colors on the other maned breeds or we get the fixed obelisks and nothing else changes.

For samples of the colors you'd be able to expect with the change, see the obelisk flair guide here: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/3072525#post_3072525

the descriptions used n the poll are very confusing, if i wasn't already so into flair for obelisks i wouldn't even know what they are asking

I’d be more favorable of the Obe style if I didn’t settle on Flair for a longtime project WC that I chose the gene specifically for how the mane effect looks on it now :/

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