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Bait or just dim?

We don't. I listed what an ip address shows me if I bothered to look it up. Y'all ain't enough of a concern to do that shit.

Like vasemod said, I just look at the string of numbers and letters on the comment to see if the same person is arguing with themselves to cause drama, or if the same person is the one being a bigot, so I can delete them and deny them a platform.

The Museum skin copying drama made me think about it a lot. There's been so many skins made over the years (and i know the angel stuff started around 2016-17ish??) that there's bound to have similar concepts with different art styles, especially with the wing / biblical / arrow / halo etc. I was looking through the database and my hoard and the same 'vibes' can come from different artists.

compare :

https://www1.flightrising.com/hoard/preview-image?gender=0&breed=10&item=22446 (ID : 22446)

vs

https://www1.flightrising.com/hoard/preview-image?gender=0&breed=10&item=36253 (ID : 36253)

i wouldn't actually know it came from different artists and just assumed one of them was made later with slightly better art skills.

is it only acceptable to start drawing certain style only after a user has retired from the site / is no longer active? because the way i see it, since ado is very much still active (and museum didn't really help with copying one of their very notable skins), that "flat colour / no shading" style is sort of off limits.

i really do wanna hear you guys' thoughts on it

The skin market is pretty over saturated so there is definitely bound to be some toe stepping and an overlap of similarities in styles and themes. Using similar elements in a new skin is fine, flowers/skull/swords/halos are very popular themes afterall but just don't place them in the exact same place in the exact same way and style.

What Museum did was copy everything ado did and the way ado did it, they didn't just copy the style, and that was wrong of them to do and they should've known better as an artist and art student themselves. The flat colour style doesn't belong to ado either, the only thing that belongs to them is the way they use that style. Only other example I can think of for comparison would be frfrfr that uses that flat, no shade style sometimes but they use it in their own unique way. Ado took the common themes and created new versions of existing ones in their own way, Museum did not.

I am hoping this makes sense :')

people defend accent and art thieves on flightrising all the time so its a gray area honestly.

site has been around for years and there's still no definitive line for copying because the rules are only set when its an artist people personally like. theft be damned. look at spassow for example, literally cut and pasting pieces of artwork and not a thing happened. in fact aequorin defended her.

what about pesticide's gradient accents from years ago? caught copy and pasting from brushes but the accents are still on site. there are many other cases.

imo this conversation is full of hypocrites. so, no. you can't copyright a concept.

but just don't place them in the exact same place in the exact same way and style.

obviously you shouldn't do this but genuine good faith question- what if you actually do want to place them in the same place, because you like where it's placed? can you do that if you don't do the other things? like say one imp f accent has flowers on the neck, and you're making (or comming) an accent for an impf that involves flowers and you happen to like the idea of them on the neck, can you still do that if you don't do it in the same way and same style as another person, or is doing it at all verboten?

Nothing wrong with that at all, if you like flowers on the neck then put flowers on the neck! Tons of skins have things placed in the same places, if it's not traced or like exactly copied then you should be fine because there's only so much space on a dragon base to put things in the first place

so fire is conquest pushing during shadow's annual mother's day conquest. fire would beat shadow and shadow is probably not in a place to battle after IvS anyway. I didn't see for sure but I think fire announced after shadow? so why are they doing this? an informal battle would be fun but this just kind of seems mean lol. shadow doesn't get first place often so why did fire have to pick that week?

in the light of this discovery the rest of their faq and 'science of sornieth' thread are absolutely hilarious

"I cannot process unrealistic concepts like magic or the paranormal because I know it can't exist, therefore in my brain it is futile. Also, I have specific opinions on the use of the terms "leg", "sentience", "animal" and "person" because those are all specific terms that have scientific backgrounds and the missuse of those really irks me (I cannot control it, my anxiety just goes through the roof)"

"The lore of FR says that the gods shaped the entire planet and I can instantly tell you that that is not scientifically possible."

you're on a magical fantasy dragon petsite please calm down.

any deets on the pesticide stuff? knew they were scummy but didn't know about this

and yet

Natron whole heartedly believes that realities infinitely create each other through the mental process of living organisms which makes both fictional and non-fictional "real". Somehow.

Are you telling me that EVERY reality that was spawned from a thought that got shit out of a persons head was created with tedious, scientific accuracy? Oh, and let's not forget whole magical concept that you're going to ascend to be an omni-potent being one day?

Natron what the FUCK are you on

Again? For the third time? Wow, is "hard-on against Shadow" is pre-requisite for being in Fire?

(reminder: first Fire v Shadow was also a surprise!battle for Mother's Day where Shadow had announced their plans for weeks, second Fire v Shadow was couple of years ago with another surprise!battle before NotN where Shadow also had announced their plans for weeks - both times Fire decided to battle Shadow without Shadow's input)

haha yo whhaaaat? I second on the whole Pest thing. other than her public freakout about buying an overpriced, scalped skin when the original artist came back on the site the next day to sell more copies....I did not know how the gradient thing.

lookup their accent history yourself drama vulture

coming to be a hero after the drama happened and no one cared about the accent theft until you don't like the artist

how many accents have flowers along an imperial females neck? i'm not being an asshole, seriously think about it.

go through the entire imperial f - neck flower accent archive and find instances of tracing and brazen copy-pasting. how many artists have asked for support only to be ignored because they weren't popular enough or you guys didn't like them at that time?

hypocrites

Wow! I had no idea it went back that far. That's super fucking weird. I'm in Fire and we were never polled on dates or whether we want to battle Shadow at all. I don't think many of us would have chosen to surprise battle them on their annual push, so I guess our dom leads really do have a hate-boner for Shadow and are dragging us along. :')

Here's the announcement post... it was just dropped on us.
https://i.imgur.com/P0LRZjG.png

i couldn't find anything which is why i asked lol

NAYRT

Oh yeah, it goes that far back. I guess Shadow is easy to pick on! I doubt Fire would be doing the same if it were another flight (like Light, for example).

The fact they even included that Shadow announced a conquest that week too... The team willingly went for Shadow then?!

AYRT, well, in the name of disclosure - I'm in Shadow and while I have nothing against against random Fire players, your dom "leaders" are certified cunts in my opinion now :|

And in the name of full disclosure, the first Fire v Shadow was dropped on us with the same unfunny "Mather" meme, so your leaders aren't even original with their hateboners which is probably an even worse sin. Where's the drama, the show, the presentation?? Boring and predictable.

and then Lightning v Wind is the next week after, save your fodder ya'll it'll be high. Might see new records

AYRT

I'm mostly in Fire for the lore but I like participating in the big dom events (battles and our festival), and this makes me want to move. This is so petty and rude.

AYRT
Well, since I immediately shifted into battle mode, my immediate thought was 'great, one less Fire trainer to overcome with our 2.5x population size' lol

But as a second thought, I'm sorry and I hope you find a solution that works for you, I can imagine this is not a situation anyone wants to find themselves where an activity they enjoy gets somewhat tainted :/

There isn't a channel for the IDs though, you have to DM a mod and then immediately delete the photo once it's done. Where's this whole channel for IDs rumor coming from?

lmao damn thats a huge stick up your ass anon

well at least i know who i'm going to be pumping full of dragons that week. you can do it, shadow!

BINGO

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