NAYRT, however I know that this is the case for a lot eastern european foods. Vareniki and Borscht are the ones I hear people argue about pretty frequently.
Especially Slavic and Balkan food! A well known shared dish is paprikash, goulash, and sodmay(Rromani)/Golubtsi(Ruissian)/sarmale(Romanian) (beef, rice, tomatoes, peppers etc wrapped in cabbage!)
There's a huge overlap in Balkan/Slavic foods so they have very similar dishes that have various unique versions for different cultures.
I love that human culture isn't static, but it shares and learns and grows, especially with food ♥
(I am very high and thinking fondly of my Mami's sodmay so this topic and the direction it's gone in makes me happy. Accidentally wholesome.)
I guess another examples could be crepes/blini + oladushki because those get lumped with blini despite being two different things.
Looking more globally dumplings/pelmeni/whatever also fits I guess. It's really hard to combine only two ingredients in a way that would be completely unique.
Yeah, I was definitely thinking of that! A lot of those dishes have been passed around through much of Europe by now, with many regions making their own take on them.
I also love that humans have historically appreciated good food so much. :D
Pizza is probably the easiest example. Neapolitan vs. Sicilian vs. New York style vs. Chicago deep dish is quite the debate LOL. Which one is the 'real' pizza? At this point... all of them!
French fries are another; despite being seen as potentially American and/or French, depending on who you ask, their origin is actually now thought to be Belgian frites. And goulash, which another anon mentioned, is yet another example - I grew up eating the German version specifically, but there are variations all around eastern/central Europe.
If you want another example, I saw a meme the other day that my brother sent me about Hawaiian pizza.
If I recall it went something like this, Hawaiian pizza was invented by a Greek immigrant living in Canada, who was inspired by South East Asian cuisine to put a South American fruit on an Italian dish.
So, in that particular dish, who is going to fight and who will win?
And if you think about it, that sums up probably about 90% of most dishes.
Since mankind started exploring and bringing back plants and animals and taking their own plants and animals, cuisines all over the world started using ingredients from all over the world.
It gets even weirder *not exactly the word I want, but I can't think what word to use* when you start realizing how many of the foods we have today are only here because people started hybridizing plants (if I recall, most citrus isn't 'natural' but the result of humans hybridizing five different plants)
So the history of food is indeed 'I created this dish and my neighbor took it, changed one ingredient and now calls it 'my neighbor's dish''. It then goes even further because the one person then goes 'I then found this new ingredient and created a brand new dish and called it 'MY new dish'' but it could have only been created by someone else bringing ingredients or inspiration back from a different place.
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Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 09:25 am (UTC)(link)Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 09:36 am (UTC)(link)Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 11:02 am (UTC)(link)There's a huge overlap in Balkan/Slavic foods so they have very similar dishes that have various unique versions for different cultures.
I love that human culture isn't static, but it shares and learns and grows, especially with food ♥
(I am very high and thinking fondly of my Mami's sodmay so this topic and the direction it's gone in makes me happy. Accidentally wholesome.)
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 11:13 am (UTC)(link)completely offtopic but i crave paprikash nowww i love you slavic food seriously underrated
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)I guess another examples could be crepes/blini + oladushki because those get lumped with blini despite being two different things.
Looking more globally dumplings/pelmeni/whatever also fits I guess. It's really hard to combine only two ingredients in a way that would be completely unique.
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)bread, booze, music, dance, and stews/soups.
Especially fried dough and booze. And I love that for us.
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)I also love that humans have historically appreciated good food so much. :D
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)Pizza is probably the easiest example. Neapolitan vs. Sicilian vs. New York style vs. Chicago deep dish is quite the debate LOL. Which one is the 'real' pizza? At this point... all of them!
French fries are another; despite being seen as potentially American and/or French, depending on who you ask, their origin is actually now thought to be Belgian frites. And goulash, which another anon mentioned, is yet another example - I grew up eating the German version specifically, but there are variations all around eastern/central Europe.
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-26 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)If you want another example, I saw a meme the other day that my brother sent me about Hawaiian pizza.
If I recall it went something like this, Hawaiian pizza was invented by a Greek immigrant living in Canada, who was inspired by South East Asian cuisine to put a South American fruit on an Italian dish.
So, in that particular dish, who is going to fight and who will win?
Re: TorisMAO
(Anonymous) 2025-05-26 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)And if you think about it, that sums up probably about 90% of most dishes.
Since mankind started exploring and bringing back plants and animals and taking their own plants and animals, cuisines all over the world started using ingredients from all over the world.
It gets even weirder *not exactly the word I want, but I can't think what word to use* when you start realizing how many of the foods we have today are only here because people started hybridizing plants (if I recall, most citrus isn't 'natural' but the result of humans hybridizing five different plants)
So the history of food is indeed 'I created this dish and my neighbor took it, changed one ingredient and now calls it 'my neighbor's dish''. It then goes even further because the one person then goes 'I then found this new ingredient and created a brand new dish and called it 'MY new dish'' but it could have only been created by someone else bringing ingredients or inspiration back from a different place.