NAYRT, but right?! there's a lot of creativity going into some of these elaborate facades, and that creativity should be nourished, instead of wielded as this cudgel with which to say "I'm more valid than you so my opinions are sexier & more correct," like the other anon was talking about. wanting to be paid attention to & cared for & loved is very Human. but "attention seeking" has been maligned as a personal failing, rather than a need for attention/care that deserves to be met. it's just such a shame that, instead of getting (professional/medical/supportive) attention for whatever conditions ARE going on with these fakers (because they do deserve that support & care), they decide to take to the Internet & spread misinformation that reduces severe, legitimate conditions down to a fashion aesthetic & a set of roleplay character cards. roles to be filled - protector/trauma holder/little. even "faceclaims" - i'm the real JoJo Adventure TM, don't reality check me & doubles DNI. BLECH i don't even like repeating it, but i think it is important to talk about. i know seeing "dissenters" can reinforce the insular nature of these types of communities - "see, the rest of the world doesn't care about us, only We know what is true and right" - but i have also spoken directly with "former fakers" who told me that they felt encouraged to speak the truth after seeing metered, reasonable discussion between others who explained the harm caused by spreading misinformation, and reassuring "current fakers" that it's OK to change your mind, and that you still deserve community & care, just in a healthier way than sticking with people who encourage you to be "sicker" rather than exploring the nuances behind what might be causing ill health or "bad behavior" (which i put in scare quotes because disruptive/unwanted/unhealthy behaviors are very often just symptoms of unmet needs). ANYWAY. bringing it back to Flight Rising, i've seen discussions about DID pop up on the saltminerising tumblr before, including someone saying like, "i hope staff recognizes systems!! we should be able to have an alt account for every guy :3" and "hahaha i was being rude & nasty to people on the forums yesterday but it totally wAsN't Me, aren't i so quirky?" i think perhaps a not-insignificant portion of the regular commenters there might fall into Faker/Oversharer territory themselves, because you get responses like "Flight Rising not letting me have 12 accounts is ableism! reporting people for being multis is like calling the cops!" and other such wild takes. puts a bad taste in my mouth.
I wish I could help these people, but I know it's not my job and none of my business. Plus, my energy is better spent elsewhere. Still, it makes me sad thinking about them suffering in toxic social groups with unaddressed mental health issues :(
replying to myself to say that i'm one of the people who took "kinning" to mean "i am a fan & relate to this character" - didn't realize that it's popularly taken to the "i AM this character & not even the original creator knows him like i do because he IS me" level, RIP (though that's not to say we can't "take" a character away from their original creator & write them "better" in our fanworks, lol).
i'm not in the "MCYT/minecraft youtuber" circles, but i read some wild stuff recently about how one of the artists working on some MCYT-related project had a discord server for that project where another member one day suddenly "developed an alter" of that artist (who i'll just call A for Artist because i'm having trouble finding the source of the story) and was posting in the discord "acting like" A, with a display name like A's, et cetera. A obviously was very discomfited by this, and when A expressed discomfort and asked that person to stop (because who would want to be impersonated by someone in their own discord server?), the other people in the server started calling A ableist because "the person with the A alter can't help who they are" and such. this snowballed into an entire receipts-type post calling for A to be removed from the project because "they're just an artist so they're easy to replace, and this ableism shouldn't be tolerated." so, a real social media campaign against an artist for... not wanting to be impersonated? that's not helping anybody.
Yeah, the previous version of this around 2015 used to be "I'm reincarnated/kin of A from a past life and I'm discovering my own memories as A"... And meanwhile A is still alive and well and posting on YT. Somewhat unsurprisingly a not insignificant amount of these were sock accounts coming from people coordinating on KF, who would then contact the person being impersonated and use the spectacle to push rhetoric like 'this is an example of how tans people are delusional'. It was gross. I don't think that's the same thing as what you're describing in this server with a mcyt alter, but it's similar enough for frysquint.gif
Because the current widespread fad of people faking a disorder, in this case DID, happens to be similar and in some cases a direct descendent of kin drama
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(Anonymous) 2023-08-10 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)wanting to be paid attention to & cared for & loved is very Human. but "attention seeking" has been maligned as a personal failing, rather than a need for attention/care that deserves to be met. it's just such a shame that, instead of getting (professional/medical/supportive) attention for whatever conditions ARE going on with these fakers (because they do deserve that support & care), they decide to take to the Internet & spread misinformation that reduces severe, legitimate conditions down to a fashion aesthetic & a set of roleplay character cards. roles to be filled - protector/trauma holder/little. even "faceclaims" - i'm the real JoJo Adventure TM, don't reality check me & doubles DNI. BLECH i don't even like repeating it, but i think it is important to talk about. i know seeing "dissenters" can reinforce the insular nature of these types of communities - "see, the rest of the world doesn't care about us, only We know what is true and right" - but i have also spoken directly with "former fakers" who told me that they felt encouraged to speak the truth after seeing metered, reasonable discussion between others who explained the harm caused by spreading misinformation, and reassuring "current fakers" that it's OK to change your mind, and that you still deserve community & care, just in a healthier way than sticking with people who encourage you to be "sicker" rather than exploring the nuances behind what might be causing ill health or "bad behavior" (which i put in scare quotes because disruptive/unwanted/unhealthy behaviors are very often just symptoms of unmet needs).
ANYWAY. bringing it back to Flight Rising, i've seen discussions about DID pop up on the saltminerising tumblr before, including someone saying like, "i hope staff recognizes systems!! we should be able to have an alt account for every guy :3" and "hahaha i was being rude & nasty to people on the forums yesterday but it totally wAsN't Me, aren't i so quirky?"
i think perhaps a not-insignificant portion of the regular commenters there might fall into Faker/Oversharer territory themselves, because you get responses like "Flight Rising not letting me have 12 accounts is ableism! reporting people for being multis is like calling the cops!" and other such wild takes.
puts a bad taste in my mouth.
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(Anonymous) 2023-08-11 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)i'm not in the "MCYT/minecraft youtuber" circles, but i read some wild stuff recently about how one of the artists working on some MCYT-related project had a discord server for that project where another member one day suddenly "developed an alter" of that artist (who i'll just call A for Artist because i'm having trouble finding the source of the story) and was posting in the discord "acting like" A, with a display name like A's, et cetera. A obviously was very discomfited by this, and when A expressed discomfort and asked that person to stop (because who would want to be impersonated by someone in their own discord server?), the other people in the server started calling A ableist because "the person with the A alter can't help who they are" and such. this snowballed into an entire receipts-type post calling for A to be removed from the project because "they're just an artist so they're easy to replace, and this ableism shouldn't be tolerated." so, a real social media campaign against an artist for... not wanting to be impersonated? that's not helping anybody.
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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)That isn't how it fucking works, that's how you make people lose respect for legitimate disorders.
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