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DA
According to the dom leads themselves, it's a host of IRL issues. While understandable, I don't know why they haven't explicitly asked for help and/or recruit more people into the dom team. There's a good chance that people are willing to step up but they don't want to seem like an asshole especially when IRL issues are constantly cited for things being late/forgotten.
I'm not having much hope for arcane in AvL since the fest push is just a mere 2 months before and arcanites have very little experience with attending in general. Sending thoughts and prayers.
According to the dom leads themselves, it's a host of IRL issues. While understandable, I don't know why they haven't explicitly asked for help and/or recruit more people into the dom team. There's a good chance that people are willing to step up but they don't want to seem like an asshole especially when IRL issues are constantly cited for things being late/forgotten.
I'm not having much hope for arcane in AvL since the fest push is just a mere 2 months before and arcanites have very little experience with attending in general. Sending thoughts and prayers.
Ayrt
I'd honestly be a little wary nonny, people that say 'I want x character to be shot' and that go out of their way to bully people out of any meaningful conversation about said character often turns into 'I distrust and wish harm upon fans of this character and anyone that makes art of him or writes ships with him and my favorite blorbo, ect ect'. I'd make sure to stay on anon wherever this is taking place.
I wish this was just me imagining this and being paranoid, but I keep seeing direct examples of this kind of harassment escalate in fandoms I'm in or adjacent to.
"But, looks like the only solution is to cook more food of my fave blorbo and seek out other like-minded people, even if the anti-blorbos will forever mald about it. And... make more fandergs of my faves."
+100 this is the correct answer. A closed invite-only discord for people that want to talk about your fandom that pass the low low bar of they haven't even told anyone to kill themselves over x character on Twitter is an great time, actually. And receipts of anyone acting otherwise should be passed around so everyone knows the assholes to avoid.
I'd honestly be a little wary nonny, people that say 'I want x character to be shot' and that go out of their way to bully people out of any meaningful conversation about said character often turns into 'I distrust and wish harm upon fans of this character and anyone that makes art of him or writes ships with him and my favorite blorbo, ect ect'. I'd make sure to stay on anon wherever this is taking place.
I wish this was just me imagining this and being paranoid, but I keep seeing direct examples of this kind of harassment escalate in fandoms I'm in or adjacent to.
"But, looks like the only solution is to cook more food of my fave blorbo and seek out other like-minded people, even if the anti-blorbos will forever mald about it. And... make more fandergs of my faves."
+100 this is the correct answer. A closed invite-only discord for people that want to talk about your fandom that pass the low low bar of they haven't even told anyone to kill themselves over x character on Twitter is an great time, actually. And receipts of anyone acting otherwise should be passed around so everyone knows the assholes to avoid.
When was the yield of glass beakers changed from 2 to 3?
Yep. I'm in a discord server that's invite only for a "problematic" character and it's been so great.
Agreed. Every time when someone tries to discuss the state of dom with the leads, they reply with 'IRL issues'. Then ofc people respond with 'IRL is more important than FR' and nothing changes. I don't know why they can't ask for help. I'm pretty sure there will be many people willing to run programs and such.
Tbh I get weird vibes from the 'busy with IRL' reply. It is mentioned very often when dom leads apologize for delays. It feels kinda... guilt-trippy to me. It's almost like they're saying 'we can't do dom properly, so no dom for you. cope' bevause they never ask for help either
Tbh I get weird vibes from the 'busy with IRL' reply. It is mentioned very often when dom leads apologize for delays. It feels kinda... guilt-trippy to me. It's almost like they're saying 'we can't do dom properly, so no dom for you. cope' bevause they never ask for help either
Oh nonny, that sucks. I hope you're able to draw something soon!
If you feel comfortable linking your AF, I'll try to attack one of your characters!
If you feel comfortable linking your AF, I'll try to attack one of your characters!
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When did anyone want him dead? I thought the vast majority just wanted him to not be an utter jackass and acknowledge he fucked up. I don't want him dead. I want him to try to be better.
Apparently, he finds being a decent person an impossible feat.
When did anyone want him dead? I thought the vast majority just wanted him to not be an utter jackass and acknowledge he fucked up. I don't want him dead. I want him to try to be better.
Apparently, he finds being a decent person an impossible feat.
nayrt đź’Ż if IRL issues came up once in a while obvi it's not a big deal but if multiple team members do, consistently... then you need a new dom team. it does feel very guilt trippy.
Watching huge chunks of fandoms gradually flee twitter and tumblr for discord, and then seeing invite-only servers become more and more the norm for the reasons discussed above has been interesting. At one point I think nearly all the artist activity in one of my medium sized fandoms transitioned to closed servers. For everyone in those servers, which was most of the fandom, it was all the food you could eat. If you weren't in the closed servers then congrats, this fandom is now a handful of toxic assholes sniping at each other on twitter.
It's honestly really funny to watch the people that didn't make the poo cut (the 'don't viciously harass people for fun' cut) complain publicly on twitter or tumblr that everyone in their fandom ~mysteriously~ stopped posting and that they have some weird hunch that nobody likes them because they've been mass blocked on twitter and can't reblog a lot of the old fanart on tumblr. Gee, I wonder why.
It's honestly really funny to watch the people that didn't make the poo cut (the 'don't viciously harass people for fun' cut) complain publicly on twitter or tumblr that everyone in their fandom ~mysteriously~ stopped posting and that they have some weird hunch that nobody likes them because they've been mass blocked on twitter and can't reblog a lot of the old fanart on tumblr. Gee, I wonder why.
+1
We would like him to stop being a manipulative lying bully but apparently that's not going to happen
We would like him to stop being a manipulative lying bully but apparently that's not going to happen
dude literally joined a dom discord too where he’s consistently active. :/ he has “please be nice I have severe RSD” as his status, which is a cherry on top of a shit cake. he seriously does just want to avoid responsibility for suibaiting and bullying by hiding behind anything he can.
this made me giggle, happens to the best of us anon, no worries
I'll be honest, I feel bad for the ones starting fresh that can't find community outside the dicks because all the people are in private servers.
Hope some folks are watching for potential fresh blood to bring into the servers.
Hope some folks are watching for potential fresh blood to bring into the servers.
Oh, yeah, there is an update that rebalances Baldwin, apparently
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/ann/3254351
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/ann/3254351
Wow. I only share art in private servers for this exact reason. That's a smart move. Twitter and Tumblr are festering toxic wastelands.
Acolight here! When we saw the standings on Saturday a couple of us admittedly made an attempt at a pretty hard last day push to bump ourselves up into third, so it wasn't all passive exalting.
Finally, they fixed the sea slug cloaks on male Faes!
nobody wants him dead or threatened or shit, it’s just annoying to watch someone continuously lie and try to excuse shit behavior on age/mental illness/whatever. like, at 18 years old? teenagers can be dumb to an extent (everyone can be, honestly) but neither i nor anyone i know were being THAT much of an asshole at that age. i’d expect that level of shit from a 13 year old trying to be “cool and edgy” before they realize later that it’s not cool at all.
How are you so sure that everyone in a fandom uses discord? Personally I don’t spend that much time on discord for a lot of reasons and I’m sure a lot of people don’t use it too. Also, a lot of servers you need to know someone in order to find a link and join. So if you can’t get an invite because you don’t know the right people, you’re not good enough to join the fandom, I guess.
DA
Fandom doesn't exist on discord only; it's just where folks tend to create closed communities that don't have the toxic folks in there.
I'm active on tumblr (Was active on twitter, but I abandoned twitter bc of how bad it is for artists now), and I still post/reblog etc. Because of tumblr, I found a closed server that is a community for folks that get hate for liking Billy Hargrove.
It's nice to have a closed server because the loud minority that fill his tags with hate aren't in it. We can talk, share writing, art, headcanons etc without having assholes sending us death threats.
Fandom exists everywhere, it's just that discord is becoming a safer place to talk with like-minded folks.
Fandom doesn't exist on discord only; it's just where folks tend to create closed communities that don't have the toxic folks in there.
I'm active on tumblr (Was active on twitter, but I abandoned twitter bc of how bad it is for artists now), and I still post/reblog etc. Because of tumblr, I found a closed server that is a community for folks that get hate for liking Billy Hargrove.
It's nice to have a closed server because the loud minority that fill his tags with hate aren't in it. We can talk, share writing, art, headcanons etc without having assholes sending us death threats.
Fandom exists everywhere, it's just that discord is becoming a safer place to talk with like-minded folks.
+100
This is the exact circumstance that I saw driving people away from public social media more and more to becoming active only on private discords.
"It's nice to have a closed server because the loud minority that fill his tags with hate aren't in it. We can talk, share writing, art, headcanons etc without having assholes sending us death threats.
Fandom exists everywhere, it's just that discord is becoming a safer place to talk with like-minded folks."
Yup. This is the reason. I don't think the majority of people in these discords necessarily wanted to gatekeep fandom activity behind a wall where mods vet newcomers, but they're vetted in order to screen for behavior such as sending death threats, doxxing, blackmail and harassment attempts, ect... That's simply the unpleasant and toxic reality of public fandom right now. This environment has organically driven large sections and sometimes the lion's share of fandoms activity into these kinds of private community spaces.
This is the exact circumstance that I saw driving people away from public social media more and more to becoming active only on private discords.
"It's nice to have a closed server because the loud minority that fill his tags with hate aren't in it. We can talk, share writing, art, headcanons etc without having assholes sending us death threats.
Fandom exists everywhere, it's just that discord is becoming a safer place to talk with like-minded folks."
Yup. This is the reason. I don't think the majority of people in these discords necessarily wanted to gatekeep fandom activity behind a wall where mods vet newcomers, but they're vetted in order to screen for behavior such as sending death threats, doxxing, blackmail and harassment attempts, ect... That's simply the unpleasant and toxic reality of public fandom right now. This environment has organically driven large sections and sometimes the lion's share of fandoms activity into these kinds of private community spaces.
DA
This also happens to a smaller extent on reddit fandom communities. Although with competent subreddit mods they get cleaned up quick if it gets too out of hand. Otherwise the voting system does its job pretty well in those instances, as much as it has its own problems.
This also happens to a smaller extent on reddit fandom communities. Although with competent subreddit mods they get cleaned up quick if it gets too out of hand. Otherwise the voting system does its job pretty well in those instances, as much as it has its own problems.
Yeah bringing in fresh blood can definitely be a problem if the mods get overwhelmed and stop actively looking for new people to bring into the server. Most closed general fandom discords I've seen have actually been pretty good about bringing in new fans though, and you're likely to get an invite to the bigger main fandom servers if you show a sliver of interest in connecting with the fandom through ao3/twitter/tumblr/forums ect and there are no receipts of you openly being a bully. Good places to look for hints as to who to ask for invites are character specific tags on tumblr and author notes on ao3. (Character and ship tags on twitter used to be a good place to look but not anymore lol)
I've definitely noticed that the mods making invite decisions over the past few years have been giving less and less leeway when it comes to extending invitations to anyone that's friends with/follows known harassers. This is partly because of the instances of server raids and banned users trying to use socks to sneak into servers they were denied access to because of their behavior.
Pro-tip, if you've been in a fandom for a while trying to find the action and nobody's hooked you up with an invite to a vetted discord, you might want to check your twitter follow list for wankers. I've seen a lot of mods debate over invites with arguments that go something like: "should we invite user xxxbunnycheeks? They haven't openly harassed anyone, but they follow a lot of people on twitter that post about calling for the degenerates of fandom to kill themselves, hmm. We probably shouldn't invite that person."
I've definitely noticed that the mods making invite decisions over the past few years have been giving less and less leeway when it comes to extending invitations to anyone that's friends with/follows known harassers. This is partly because of the instances of server raids and banned users trying to use socks to sneak into servers they were denied access to because of their behavior.
Pro-tip, if you've been in a fandom for a while trying to find the action and nobody's hooked you up with an invite to a vetted discord, you might want to check your twitter follow list for wankers. I've seen a lot of mods debate over invites with arguments that go something like: "should we invite user xxxbunnycheeks? They haven't openly harassed anyone, but they follow a lot of people on twitter that post about calling for the degenerates of fandom to kill themselves, hmm. We probably shouldn't invite that person."
+1
I think a grand total of 2% of my fanart makes it out to social media these days. If you're wondering why people that worked in various arts industry like animation seemed to stop making and posting fanart on twitter over the past few years, this is why. They have not stopped. There are a bajillion industry artists still making fanart, it's just all behind a very guarded locked door on discord now.
I think a grand total of 2% of my fanart makes it out to social media these days. If you're wondering why people that worked in various arts industry like animation seemed to stop making and posting fanart on twitter over the past few years, this is why. They have not stopped. There are a bajillion industry artists still making fanart, it's just all behind a very guarded locked door on discord now.
Reddit is such a weird mix of random vibes when it comes to fandom. Sometimes it can be really fun and then sometimes... yeah.
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