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theyve been avoiding stepping on these eggshells for so long its kinda funny how a complete retcon was their solution. as someone from a colonized, affected by recent usian interference and definitely not first world country in fact the whole thing is funny, this sudden obsession with being as sanitary as possible in little fake stories. I for one love being treated like a child who is just learning right and wrong
I've got some Thoughts about this but they can mostly be summed up as "I think there are more deft ways to handle this than a full retcon."
Good lord the people trying to mic drop on the familiars being available in the treasure marketplace as 'human trafficking'
This isn't me dismissing the whole lore thing (there were valid opinions and critical observations) entirely but. yeah, goddamn.
Some people really need to internalize that mechanics and lore are not necessarily a 1:1 reflection. Certain mechanics common to the petsite format are just not something you should over-analyze too much.
Some people really need to internalize that mechanics and lore are not necessarily a 1:1 reflection. Certain mechanics common to the petsite format are just not something you should over-analyze too much.
I think acknowledging the issues with the lore was good, but do agree that resolving it through the lore and an ongoing story would have been more fulfilling and less awkward than just retconning the current conflict out of existence. I actually thought the Undertide lore was a move in that direction. But I can also imagine from their perspective that it may be hard to figure out a way to do that respectfully and avoid people still having an issue with however they do handle it. Less complicated to just start from scratch, more or less.
On the other hand, just look at the thread now - already there’s people making comments about them still selling Beastclans familiars in the marketplace, or fighting Beastclans in the coli, and so on. There’s never going to be a solution that completely satisfies everyone short of having no lore at all - which would just create its own problems and complaints.
At the end of the day, this is a game about breeding and collecting dragons first, and the lore (which tbh is already kinda eh anyway, to the point a lot of people straight up ignore it in favor of their own lore) comes second to that. I can’t blame them too much for taking what they see as the easier road, even if I think it’s not the best way.
On the other hand, just look at the thread now - already there’s people making comments about them still selling Beastclans familiars in the marketplace, or fighting Beastclans in the coli, and so on. There’s never going to be a solution that completely satisfies everyone short of having no lore at all - which would just create its own problems and complaints.
At the end of the day, this is a game about breeding and collecting dragons first, and the lore (which tbh is already kinda eh anyway, to the point a lot of people straight up ignore it in favor of their own lore) comes second to that. I can’t blame them too much for taking what they see as the easier road, even if I think it’s not the best way.
Yeah I get how just wiping the slate can be unfulfilling but part of me really doesn't blame them because, well. *gestures to the thread*
did they forget dragons are also available for purchase?
We traffic more dragons than beastclan in the AH
he's too busy shouting at his employees to hate minorities smh, he does not care as long as you meet the deadline
Agreed, although with how long it's taking for Adventure Mode to come out, it'd not like they wouldn't have the time to try something with more finesse.
I'm going to miss the interesting story and lore potential with this retcon, but at least the new lore's cute.
I'm going to miss the interesting story and lore potential with this retcon, but at least the new lore's cute.
now you see, the problem is that this take makes proper sense. gameplay mechanics in many games don’t need to be 1:1 to the lore. most people can tell apart this.
unfortunately this is FR and the userbase don’t have a lick of sense
unfortunately this is FR and the userbase don’t have a lick of sense
i genuinely wish i could block everyone here treating this like it doesn’t matter/is an inconvenience on flightrising bc i do not want to interact with you. yall are annoying and nobody is saying you can’t tell dark stories anymore. the flight rising staff decided on their own that the specific conflict of fr lore was too similar to colonialism for their liking (and they’re correct) and changed it without being forced. nobody is treating you like an infant, nobody is taking away your dark stories. fr staff is fixing an unfortunate parallel of their own accord and being against or ‘critical’ of that decision is almost as cringe as people who think being able to buy familiars from the mp equates to trafficking.
baby dragons too D:
eggs
though to be fair i suspect many players are young or new enough to games in general that they haven't learned about abstraction in game mechanics yet
eggs
though to be fair i suspect many players are young or new enough to games in general that they haven't learned about abstraction in game mechanics yet
at least they are now aware that they just don't have the money/manpower/whatever to handle a story with those themes quickly and well enough
like even just writing down a story, independent of a game, with that premise can go so wrong it's like the source of a third of all the clichés in the world
like even just writing down a story, independent of a game, with that premise can go so wrong it's like the source of a third of all the clichés in the world
ayrt
ya got me there!
ya got me there!
if i created a game and wrote a conflict that mirrored colonialism and meant all player characters were colonizers, but that was not my intent, then i wouldn't want to spend the next x amount of years stuck with that poor writing decision, having to base future lore off of that poor writing decision, having to advertise that poor writing decision to potential players who may find it in bad taste, and so on
there's plenty of other conflict in FR where dragons aren't necessarily the good guys
there's plenty of other conflict in FR where dragons aren't necessarily the good guys
I know someone that's using this as an easy way to add to their blocklist. Seriously, just go through and whack an edgelord
You are weirdly defensive in a thread where everyone in essence agrees with you. I would too like to block you as it sounds suspiciously close to christian fundie/anti views where if someones dare to disagree with some specific points, they have moral problems.
My exact reaction as someone whose country is a former colony. Who fucking cares haha also based on my own experiences with annoying white bitches it's always the ones crying about "Omg we need to be sweet and nice to the dumb colonized inferiors!!" who do things like participate in slum tourism.
agree
we can think for ourselves, thanks.
we can think for ourselves, thanks.
no offense and i'm happy the devs rewrote the lore to something they felt better reflects their values
but how did you handle the existence of this lore before they changed it literally a day ago
but how did you handle the existence of this lore before they changed it literally a day ago
I mean, if you've been active on FR before the lore was retconned, you also were part of the people who efficiently acted like it didn't matter, so hunny, you're literally no better than anyone else.
Personally, I never really got into the lore bc I cannot concentrate for shit because of ADHD so, like, are you gonna want to block me for that? Absolutely absurd reason to block anyone ever imo
Personally, I never really got into the lore bc I cannot concentrate for shit because of ADHD so, like, are you gonna want to block me for that? Absolutely absurd reason to block anyone ever imo
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